Hi Grant, 

 

I received these Dongles so long ago. So, if I am comprehending you
correctly, the Dongle is authorized specific to JAWS 15. Is that correct? 

 

Thanks. For the clarification. 

 

Eileen 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:38 PM
To: MacVisionaries List
Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS

 

Hello Eileen:

 

You have two Dongles? I assume you have two separate licenses of JAWS, then?
In any case, yes, if a Dongle is authorized for JAWS 15, then yes, it should
work without issues.

 

As for internet activation, there are really no guarantees whether or not
updating the Boot Camp Support Software would deactivate your license of
JAWS. You could try exiting JAWS completely during the upgrade and use
another screen reader, such as NVDA or Narrator. There's also a chance the
installation will be smooth and there'll be no issues. I immediately was
told that the installer couldn't complete, and after researching the problem
online I determined that a few people had given the suggestion of trying to
uninstall third party video software before running the installer. As I
said, this did indeed work for me. Maybe this isn't a normal thing to have
to do, though. If other JAWS users have tried repairing or reinstalling the
Boot Camp Support Software, I'd ask them to chime in and let me know how
things went. It's also possible that removing "Freedom Scientific Video
Intercept Software" from the "Programs and Features" section of the Control
Panel would work better. In any case, if your JAWS deactivates, FS should be
able to reset it for you but I would recommend reporting this to them as a
bug, which I honestly believe it is.

 

To respond to some points made by other listers, giving up commercial screen
reading software just isn't an option a lot of us would want to do as I do
rely on some of the power features of JAWS, for example, to make me more
efficient. Two examples that immediately spring to mind are speech and
sounds schemes, and the flexible web feature. Indeed, I feel that with a
machine that can run JAWS, Window-Eyes, NVDA, and VoiceOver, as well as any
other screen reader you like, you have the greatest number of tools in your
toolbox to deal with any screen reading needs that come up.

 

I would hope though that one day JAWS will embrace the more benign copy
protection models that are used by companies like Microsoft and Apple, which
enforce their EULA but in a much more user friendly way. With Apple for
example, you need only sign in with your Apple ID and password, and you have
access to all your purchases. With Microsoft, you can activate repeatedly on
the same machine and it'll automatically push it through for you. If you
change machines, they have a 24/7 call centre that you can telephone. In any
case, I guess further discussion of this particular point should be taken to
a different list, but I did want to bring this JAWS and Boot Camp issue to
listers' attention.

 

Cheers,


Grant 

 

On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:15 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com>
wrote:





Hello, 

I am running a 2013 MBA, with Win 8.1 installed in Bootcamp. The JAWS
version is 15 current build. Right now, I am not having any issues with JAWS
running in Bootcamp, but it seems that when Bootcamp has an upgrade that's
when there may be issues? I have 2 old FS JAWS dongles stashed away in a
safe place. Will these work if I need to switch over to using a Dongle to
run JAWS in Bootcamp? I'm just curious for now. 

Thanks. 

Eileen 

-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of The Believer
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 10:47 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of JAWS

   My MBP is mid 2012 and only one USB port.

>From The Believer. . .
  What if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/2/2014 7:13 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:



Hmm. I don't recall any MacBook Pros that had less than two USB ports.
On the non-retina models there are two on the left edge. On the newer 
non-CD Retina models there is one on both the left and right sides.

CB

On 8/31/14, 6:05 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:



Hi Mark,

Go ahead and set up Windows 7 and JAWS on your MBP if that's what you 
want to do. :) I doubt you'll have any difficulties. I only had 
trouble because I was following specific troubleshooting steps. I 
removed the JAWS and Window-Eyes video drivers from the Device 
Manager, with intent to repair them later. In retrospect, I suppose I 
should have uninstalled "Freedom Scientific Video Intercept" from the 
Programs and Features panel in Control Panel, but there is no 
guarantee that this would have made any difference. In any case, I 
was quite taken aback that this would have totally deactivated JAWS.

Dongles have their fair share of problems too, but are definitely a 
little more fail safe. Just a random example of a problem I've 
experienced with FS Dongles, if you connect a dongle to a computer 
too early (e.g. before JAWS is installed), then install JAWS, the 
Dongle will work absolutely fine. However, Windows will offer you a 
driver update for the Dongle. If you install that update, the Dongle 
will stop working and you'll have a lot of troubleshooting to do 
before things start working again. Also of course on something like a 
Macbook Pro, if it is a current model, you'll only have one USB port 
to work with (given the Dongle will take up the other one). That's 
rather unfortunate.

While repairing the Boot Camp support software is not exactly a 
normal part of using the computer that most people will have to do, 
Apple does roll out updates to the software from time to time which a 
lot of users will want to take advantage of. While I don't have first 
hand knowledge of this, I suspect those updates will throw off the 
activation as well.

Cheers,

Grant

On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:45 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu
<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu%20%0b%3cmailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:




Hello Grant,

I am so sorry you are having this problem but thank you so much for 
sharing your insights.

How does one go about uninstalling the Jaws Intercept video drivers?

I was thinking about setting up Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro but, 
after reading your post, perhaps I'll rethink this.

Thanks again,

Mark


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Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:04 PM
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Subject: A few issues with Boot Camp, and a heads-up for users of 
JAWS

Hello all,

I encountered Wi-Fi issues on a late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro  while 
running Windows 8.1 professional via Boot Camp. I therefore decided 
to do some troubleshooting. Really the only troubleshooting 
suggestion I could find apart from erasing my Windows partition and 
starting from scratch was to repair the Boot Camp support software. 
I tried to do this but got errors saying that the installer could 
not complete and to try it again at a later time.

Upon doing some research, I discovered that at least a few people 
got these errors who had third-party video drivers installed, and 
therefore the fix was to temporarily uninstall all third-party video 
devices, repair the Boot Camp installation, then reinstall them. As 
you probably know, JAWS does in fact install a video driver to 
assist with screen reading, so I uninstalled it temporarily and sure 
enough, this was the fix. The Boot Camp installer was able to run at 
that point and repaired the support software.

Unfortunately, it seems that uninstalling the Freedom Scientific 
Video Intercept drivers triggered my JAWS activation to be lost. 
Clearly this should not have happened, but I've encountered many 
situations where this has happened to JAWS over the years for fairly 
minor system tweaks, or even smaller  things such as turning off the 
Wi-Fi switch on a laptop,  and occasionally you can fix the problem 
by putting things back to the way they were. I hoped that 
reinstalling the Video Intercept drivers would have re-activated my 
copy of JAWS, but it did not. This feels like a bug, and I think 
users of JAWS should be aware that if they are going to repair or 
update their Boot Camp Support Software, it is likely that they will 
lose their activation. Since Apple does post updates to the support 
software from time to time, I think this is something to keep in 
mind.

On another note my Wi-Fi issues are unfortunately not resolved. 
Among other things, Wi-Fi does not work after the computer sleeps. 
Windows thinks that I am using a separate Wi-Fi adapter (e.g. the 
label  of the adapter changes from "Wi-Fi" to "Wi-Fi 2", and no 
connections can be established until the computer is rebooted. Also, 
the connection drops quite frequently--and again, this only happens 
while using Windows and not with OS X.

Just wanted to share, but any insight would of course be welcomed.

Grant

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