I agree. I have had to delete continuously over sunday while i was busy on my assignments. This over a feature or lack of on a phone. Think about it, people. What then if the topic was something sensitive? It shows a certain level of immaturity and lack of real activities. And a list should not require moderation if people are aware that saying fuck or shit is wrong to start with. Whoever starts it. But falling into the trap is just as short sighted pun intended.
All this commotion for absolutely nothing consequent. Sent from sputnik7 > On 30/03/2015, at 9:45 am, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > The blunt truth is, some people who were the most bothered by Mario this > past weekend are just like him. No different. That is why he was so > successful in yanking your chains. He played you. (smiles) > > Are we done yet? > > From The Believer. . . > By way of the Chariots of the > Gods cameth the Aliens who > dwelt amongst the humans, > and bringeth much knowledge. > >> On 3/29/2015 4:20 PM, BBS wrote: >> I'm with you man. I was there for a few years and got tired of the >> daily/hourly drama there. I don't care if my account there gets hacked or >> suspended. I have a bad reputation over there for being the poor little >> blind guy that can't afford Jaws. Well now I have a Mac so I don't care if I >> don't have enough money for Jaws. Voiceover on the Mac and iPhone beats Jaws >> any day. >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White Macbook >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 1:44 PM >> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 >> >> >> Shawn, >> >> This is why I won't promote and flat out refuse to go to the zone bbs. >> >> chris. >> >> --- >> Check out my web site at: >> http://www.clgproductions.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Shawn Krasniuk >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 2:16 AM >> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 >> >> >> Chris, Mario kinda reminds me of another person on another mailing list >> named Pablo Morales. Both of them like to complain about issues that most of >> us aren't experiencing. The thing is, Apple must be doing something right if >> blind and sighted people keep buying their products. And sure, there are >> bugs, but I along with a hand full of blind beta testers are working hard to >> make iOS 8.3 and OS X Yosemite the best it can be. >> As for Mario's questionable language, surprisingly, I'm not offended. I >> just laughed at it because it shows how childish this person really is, so >> it was entertaining for me. But on a serious note, this ain't the Zone BBS >> or it's mailing list, so I agree with others that the swearing temper >> tantrum isn't appropriate for a *Family* mailing list and should be dealt >> with. >> >> >> Shawn >> Sent From My White MacBook >> >> >> On Mar 28, 2015, at 3:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Donna, >> >> What bothers me mostly about this entire thread is that those unlike >> you, and the Believer, etc. will not present the list with any rock-solid >> examples of how things are still broken. How must one expect us to believe >> them if they won't even back up their comments with anything worthwhile. >> >> Chris. >> --- >> Check out my web site at: >> http://www.clgproductions.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Donna Goodin >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2015 9:19 AM >> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 >> >> >> I have to agree with the believer, here. I don't know what you guys >> are talking about. Many of Yuma's comments are about whether Apple is still >> on the cutting edge. I agree that Tim Cook and Johnny Ives aren't the >> visionaries that Steve Jobs was, there's no question about that. But in >> terms of the actual products, I've got IOS 8.2 on my phone, and I actually >> find Voiceover to be more responsive than with IOS 8.0, so it seems pretty >> clear to me that they made some accessibility improvements. I'm running >> Yosemite on my MBA, and am happy with that as well. I don't feel in anyway >> that accessibility is being pushed off to the side. Are there things that >> could be improved, absolutely. But Apple is still doing a better job than >> any other company of building native accessibility into its products. I had >> to use Windows 8 at my old job, and I can say truthfully it'd be a cold day >> in hell before I switch back to a PC. I haven't used an Android phone since >> 2010, and I'm sur > e the landscape there has changed significantly since then. But when I did > try it, the experience did not bring me joy. >> >> >> This is just my experience, and as such, it is not intended to >> invalidate the experiences of anyone who may actually be having problems, >> just to say that not all of us are. Don't know why some would be while >> others aren't, but perhaps that is the case. >> Best, >> Donna >> >> On Mar 28, 2015, at 8:01 AM, mário navarro <mario....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> man, why you are so stupid? >> you work for apple? >> apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? >> apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? >> yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your >> iPhone ... >> shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... >> >> >> Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: >> >> All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the >> beginning have pretty much been fixed. >> >> I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air >> first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any >> issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item >> chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and >> the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that >> page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. >> >> Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're >> just gonna have to trust me with this. >> >> Chris. >> --- >> Check out my web site at: >> http://www.clgproductions.net >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jon Solitro >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM >> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 >> >> >> The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the >> functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. >> >> >> I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is >> worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run >> slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" <gbma...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am >> interested in this please. >> >> >> thanks >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jon Solitro >> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 >> >> >> I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still >> running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to >> install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? >> >> On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma >> Decaux wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> >> I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 >> and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, >> slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not >> working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I >> have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to >> nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you >> should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was >> camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and >> those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want >> some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 >> dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way >> around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis >> moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into >> an apple store and w > ait for a genius to tell me my future. >> >> >> Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for >> those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a >> few basic things: >> 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving >> apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music >> production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the >> other way around. >> 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that >> collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on >> the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that >> much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous >> marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human interface, >> a software division, coming from someone who used to make toilet seats. The >> only one or ones I can trust in this are frederici and some of the younger >> engineers presented at the last apple showcase. but they don’t have enough >> say yet, so we’re stuck with all that flash graphical transition animation >> style crap instead of truly clean, efficient and snappy interfaces. >> 3-There are other choices out there, but I have no idea >> what. Sometimes I wish I was sighted again so that I can really be part of >> the process of creating real interfaces for everyone. It’s frustrating to >> know that most companies follow what is standard and forget that standards >> are meant to be broken and updated. Not broken at the cost of the buyer, no. >> If it’s broken, it should be free, such as what google offers. Buying a 3000 >> dollar piece of hardware to get clunky experiences and moments where you >> want to throw that damn thing out the window and never touch it again is >> clearly not what I call good experience on a computer. More and more of my >> friends, mac users, both sighted and visually impaired, agree with me that >> apple is starting to rot in terms of presenting it’s image. It’s not an >> underdog but a huge bulky oil tanker that can now only manuver slowly with a >> battalion of lawyers behind murmuring at the chief’s ears, the latter being >> probably more complac > ent than should be, thus giving us this weird awkward show each year now with > a barely straight talking TIm Cook who sounds like he never had a girl friend > chill time or something seems amiss in him. Some soul? Something. Whatever > the case, I don’t really dig the style apple is portraying. It’s becoming a > disney world presentation with oooohs and aaahs when the tech behind is quite > literally lagging. No visionary stuff, when this qualification should by now, > from all the sci fi, the research and the graduations of bright people, > should lead us much farther in terms of actual interaction with a computer, > and let’s not forget screen readers. >> >> >> Anyway, off for my morning coffee. 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