I'm glad you mentioned this. I've often thought that speech commands and 
dictation on the Mac can be almost as good as Dragon, but much more accessible. 
The problem I always run into is that VoiceOver and dictation don't play nice 
together. Even with headphones in, VO speech is automatically muted when 
dictation starts, offering no real-time feedback as you speak. Not only do you 
not know what's being typed out, you have no way to monitor commands. Saying 
"switch to mail" may switch to mail, but VO never says anything about it and it 
takes some fiddling just to get any kind of speech back. I'd love to be able to 
add dictation to my bag of tricks (not to mention justification for using a 
Mac) but I can't currently do so for VO users.

All that to say: have you overcome this problem? Is there a setting or feature 
I'm missing that lets VO and dictation work together? I really hope there is! 
I'd also be curious about adding custom commands. Thanks! 

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> On Aug 15, 2015, at 13:01, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello listers,
> 
> Those of you who do Mac training might be interested in the experience we had 
> this week, teaching a Mac beginner with very little computer experience of 
> any kind.
> Our client has problems with his hands. He can only press one key with each 
> hand and has trouble finding his way around the keyboard.
> We discovered that Dictation in the Accessibility pane of System Preferences 
> offers a huge range of commands, and you can assign new ones for yourself. 
> You can even assign commands to key combinations such as Cmd-Shift-d which 
> works for sending mail messages or going to the Desktop.
> With the judicious placing of markers on certain keys and the addition of 
> quite a few voice commands, our client managed to learn to use Mail and 
> Safari to the degree that he needs them.
> 
> If anyone else is facing this kind of difficulty, I’d be happy to pass on any 
> tips I’ve learnt over the past few days.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
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