Hello Alex, Sometimes there’s speech and sometimes there isn’t. I think it depends on whether there are new messages or not. I hope I shall get feedback from him now he’s back home and having to use his Mac on his own.
Cheers, Anne > On 15 Aug 2015, at 23:34, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > If he wants to open Mail, then compose a new message, all with speech, does > he get VoiceOver feedback? That is, does VO say anything when Mail launches, > or the message composition window appears? I'm hoping the total lack of > speech is something odd on my system. >> On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >> >> Hello Alex, >> >> I forgot to mention that my client is very comfortable with his iPhone, so >> the Trackpad Commander was also part of the mix. >> We set a voice command to speak selected text and there is already a voice >> command to select all. >> We certainly had no problems with VoiceOver interfering with voice commands, >> but we were really doing quite simple tasks. Our client isn’t interested in >> reading books or writing documents. He just wants to look things up on the >> internet and send e-mails and read them. The trakpad commander provides the >> ability to read by sentence or paragraph, or whatever you want using the >> rotor. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >>> On 15 Aug 2015, at 20:40, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm glad you mentioned this. I've often thought that speech commands and >>> dictation on the Mac can be almost as good as Dragon, but much more >>> accessible. The problem I always run into is that VoiceOver and dictation >>> don't play nice together. Even with headphones in, VO speech is >>> automatically muted when dictation starts, offering no real-time feedback >>> as you speak. Not only do you not know what's being typed out, you have no >>> way to monitor commands. Saying "switch to mail" may switch to mail, but VO >>> never says anything about it and it takes some fiddling just to get any >>> kind of speech back. I'd love to be able to add dictation to my bag of >>> tricks (not to mention justification for using a Mac) but I can't currently >>> do so for VO users. >>> >>> All that to say: have you overcome this problem? Is there a setting or >>> feature I'm missing that lets VO and dictation work together? I really hope >>> there is! I'd also be curious about adding custom commands. Thanks! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 13:01, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello listers, >>>> >>>> Those of you who do Mac training might be interested in the experience we >>>> had this week, teaching a Mac beginner with very little computer >>>> experience of any kind. >>>> Our client has problems with his hands. He can only press one key with >>>> each hand and has trouble finding his way around the keyboard. >>>> We discovered that Dictation in the Accessibility pane of System >>>> Preferences offers a huge range of commands, and you can assign new ones >>>> for yourself. You can even assign commands to key combinations such as >>>> Cmd-Shift-d which works for sending mail messages or going to the Desktop. >>>> With the judicious placing of markers on certain keys and the addition of >>>> quite a few voice commands, our client managed to learn to use Mail and >>>> Safari to the degree that he needs them. >>>> >>>> If anyone else is facing this kind of difficulty, I’d be happy to pass on >>>> any tips I’ve learnt over the past few days. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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