If he wants to open Mail, then compose a new message, all with speech, does he get VoiceOver feedback? That is, does VO say anything when Mail launches, or the message composition window appears? I'm hoping the total lack of speech is something odd on my system. > On Aug 15, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: > > Hello Alex, > > I forgot to mention that my client is very comfortable with his iPhone, so > the Trackpad Commander was also part of the mix. > We set a voice command to speak selected text and there is already a voice > command to select all. > We certainly had no problems with VoiceOver interfering with voice commands, > but we were really doing quite simple tasks. Our client isn’t interested in > reading books or writing documents. He just wants to look things up on the > internet and send e-mails and read them. The trakpad commander provides the > ability to read by sentence or paragraph, or whatever you want using the > rotor. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > >> On 15 Aug 2015, at 20:40, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I'm glad you mentioned this. I've often thought that speech commands and >> dictation on the Mac can be almost as good as Dragon, but much more >> accessible. The problem I always run into is that VoiceOver and dictation >> don't play nice together. Even with headphones in, VO speech is >> automatically muted when dictation starts, offering no real-time feedback as >> you speak. Not only do you not know what's being typed out, you have no way >> to monitor commands. Saying "switch to mail" may switch to mail, but VO >> never says anything about it and it takes some fiddling just to get any kind >> of speech back. I'd love to be able to add dictation to my bag of tricks >> (not to mention justification for using a Mac) but I can't currently do so >> for VO users. >> >> All that to say: have you overcome this problem? Is there a setting or >> feature I'm missing that lets VO and dictation work together? I really hope >> there is! I'd also be curious about adding custom commands. Thanks! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 13:01, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Hello listers, >>> >>> Those of you who do Mac training might be interested in the experience we >>> had this week, teaching a Mac beginner with very little computer experience >>> of any kind. >>> Our client has problems with his hands. He can only press one key with each >>> hand and has trouble finding his way around the keyboard. >>> We discovered that Dictation in the Accessibility pane of System >>> Preferences offers a huge range of commands, and you can assign new ones >>> for yourself. You can even assign commands to key combinations such as >>> Cmd-Shift-d which works for sending mail messages or going to the Desktop. >>> With the judicious placing of markers on certain keys and the addition of >>> quite a few voice commands, our client managed to learn to use Mail and >>> Safari to the degree that he needs them. >>> >>> If anyone else is facing this kind of difficulty, I’d be happy to pass on >>> any tips I’ve learnt over the past few days. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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