-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Set a filter for him. he's not worth your inbox space.
On 8/27/2015 2:30 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Good for you! Stand in that delete power. I believe he is on > another list I am on, but since I understand that I am the one > writing the dictionary of what I will allow to define me, I read > what is relevant, and ignore the rest. I learn so much from the > majority, that it seems disrespectful of the quality coffee to > focus on anything else. Kare > > > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Rich Ring wrote: > >> I am aware of who the individual who seems to like to get peoples >> feelings stirred up is, and since I know where my delete key is, >> I have no problem with this individual. This individual comes and >> goes, and unless excluded, he’ll be back! However, my delete key >> is a constant, not a variable, although, I read some of his >> messages because I kind of enjoy the absurd! This is, overall, an >> extremely helpful list, and the majority of its contributors are >> not only helpful, but respectful. All of us do not share the same >> level of knowledge, but one thing we all have in common, all of >> us were once beginners! >>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Karen Lewellen >>> <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >>> >>> well, if this party has threatened or used hate speech, you >>> report them to the authorities. One does not well build a >>> new house instead. ..not that you were asking me of course >>> smiles. Why not report their conduct to the Internet provider? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>> >>>> Scott, >>>> >>>> What are you really ttryint to get to? Take the same home >>>> analogy, or let’s say the social club analogy. A majority is >>>> agreeing that this guy is detrimental. It’s been months like >>>> this and in recent dates taking a culminating effect of >>>> driving the discussion towards what to do with him, on and >>>> off list. Your words are also getting more radical, >>>> mentioning churches etc. Don’t you think its time to >>>> consider that maybe something does need to be done? >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 27/08/2015, at 2:40 AM, Scott Granados >>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think its funny how people like to push the >>>>> responsibility on to someone else instead of deal with it >>>>> themselves. >>>>> >>>>> If you don’t want to invite someone in to your home then >>>>> don’t. Nobody forces you to read anything. >>>>> >>>>> These are the same busy bodies who want content pulled on >>>>> TV because someone said something they don’t like or it >>>>> offends some arbitrary religious value or another. Oh I >>>>> don’t like what he said in that song, ban it, moderate it, >>>>> my view is the right view so all others be damned. >>>>> >>>>> wow >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten >>>>>> <motte...@gmail.com <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best >>>>>> thing would be to have new moderators on this list, >>>>>> rather than fragmenting the community. I know that is >>>>>> not a new idea as several have mentioned the same idea. >>>>>> I also don't agree with the wild West approach. I'm >>>>>> sorry. But when you send email to a list of several >>>>>> hundred people, you are coming into their homes. And you >>>>>> did not have a right to abuse that privilege. Nor should >>>>>> several hundred people be expected to write >>>>>> filtersbecause of one or two outliers who make >>>>>> itunpleasant for everybody. If a list is said to be >>>>>> moderated, people who signed up for that list have a >>>>>> right to expect that the rules will be followed and that >>>>>> those who do not follow them consistently will be taken >>>>>> off the list. If you like unmoderated lists, start one, >>>>>> or, if you want to check one out, go check out the eyes >>>>>> freelist. The last time I was on there, which was >>>>>> admittedly many months ago, it was horrible. I'm not >>>>>> arguing for one strike and you're out or heavy-handed >>>>>> moderation. But when it becomes clear overtime that a few >>>>>> people simply cannot follow simple guidelines, then a >>>>>> moderator needs to take action, or a new moderator needs >>>>>> to be found. So, I guess I'm joining my voice with the >>>>>> chorus of those who say that in the best of all worlds, >>>>>> this list would remain but would have an active moderator >>>>>> who did his or her job. Mary >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com <mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> > Hello Scott, There's a vast difference in overly moderating and > moderating of those who make the community unpleasant for others. > For example, should someone receive an email cursing at them > (which happens here pretty frequently), the problem gets solved > with a moderation. Should it continue, said individual is removed > from the community. > > I'm not proposing that overly prolicing makes a difference, just > that it's possible with an active list owner to create a community > conducive to a place where people can ask questions and provide > help, etc. Can you imagine how much cleaner our inboxes would be > (I myself am somewhat at fault here, as I've said) if we were to > mostly elimenate all the side bickering? On 8/26/2015 7:46 AM, > Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>>> I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s >>>>>>>>> like saying policing = a good community and I’d >>>>>>>>> dare say the folks of Ferguson or South Carolina >>>>>>>>> would disagree with that assertion.;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is >>>>>>>>> the tightening of the rules going to necessarily >>>>>>>>> translate in to better content. It might but it’s >>>>>>>>> hard to get enough people to switch and keep the >>>>>>>>> same value when there’s already a critical mass of >>>>>>>>> people here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good luck though, as one of my favorite talk radio >>>>>>>>> hosts used to say before he passed away “that’s >>>>>>>>> why they make chocolate and vanilla” something for >>>>>>>>> the different viewpoints. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ty...@tysdomain.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems >>>>>>>>> on this list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My last response on this list was cursed at and >>>>>>>>> nothing is being done to stop it. As a result of >>>>>>>>> the spam/cursing/general throwing of fits, I >>>>>>>>> created a new list where rules can be enforced and >>>>>>>>> we can have a good community. On 8/26/2015 2:46 >>>>>>>>> AM, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote on 26/08/2015 at 05:29: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. Why a >>>>>>>>>>>> new list? What is going to happen to this >>>>>>>>>>>> one? Thanks. Gabriel. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are >>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" >>>>>>>>>> group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop >>>>>>>>>> receiving emails from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. 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