I like your solution. People who want a little oversight can take that option and people who don’t are able to stay as is.
Couldn’t be much more fair than that. I’d say to the folks concerned about fragmentation that happy users on the list even if fragments of the former list are probably better than a large list of constant complaints mixed in with some content. I also like the fact in your specific case you’ve taken a lot of pains to stress how light touched your moderation style is which seems reasonable. My pushback was mainly geared towards people wanting to bring back the original moderator or concerned with what she had to say. I think at this stage nobody cares and nobody wants to go back to that time period of overreaching power grabbing that was the moderation of the list before. Also I’m not a fan of moderation but as I said I’m only qualified to speak for me and barely qualified at that.:) Others may feel differently and that’s a good thing. > On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: > > Hello: > I actually tried for the best of both worlds here. I’ve reached out to Cara > numerous times, even mentioned her on twitter and gotten no response. This > was the last solution for me, but one which I really do think will work. So I > do want it known that I have exhausted all possibilities short of banging on > her door. > > thanks, >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best thing would be to have >> new moderators on this list, rather than fragmenting the community. I know >> that is not a new idea as several have mentioned the same idea. I also don't >> agree with the wild West approach. I'm sorry. But when you send email to a >> list of several hundred people, you are coming into their homes. And you did >> not have a right to abuse that privilege. Nor should several hundred people >> be expected to write filtersbecause of one or two outliers who make >> itunpleasant for everybody. If a list is said to be moderated, people who >> signed up for that list have a right to expect that the rules will be >> followed and that those who do not follow them consistently will be taken >> off the list. If you like unmoderated lists, start one, or, if you want to >> check one out, go check out the eyes freelist. The last time I was on there, >> which was admittedly many months ago, it was horrible. I'm not arguing for >> one strike and you're out or heavy-handed moderation. But when it becomes >> clear overtime that a few people simply cannot follow simple guidelines, >> then a moderator needs to take action, or a new moderator needs to be found. >> So, I guess I'm joining my voice with the chorus of those who say that in >> the best of all worlds, this list would remain but would have an active >> moderator who did his or her job. >> Mary >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hello Scott, >>> There's a vast difference in overly moderating and moderating of those >>> who make the community unpleasant for others. For example, should >>> someone receive an email cursing at them (which happens here pretty >>> frequently), the problem gets solved with a moderation. Should it >>> continue, said individual is removed from the community. >>> >>> I'm not proposing that overly prolicing makes a difference, just that >>> it's possible with an active list owner to create a community >>> conducive to a place where people can ask questions and provide help, >>> etc. Can you imagine how much cleaner our inboxes would be (I myself >>> am somewhat at fault here, as I've said) if we were to mostly >>> elimenate all the side bickering? >>> On 8/26/2015 7:46 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>> I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s like saying >>>> policing = a good community and I’d dare say the folks of Ferguson >>>> or South Carolina would disagree with that assertion.;) >>>> >>>> You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is the tightening of >>>> the rules going to necessarily translate in to better content. It >>>> might but it’s hard to get enough people to switch and keep the >>>> same value when there’s already a critical mass of people here. >>>> >>>> Good luck though, as one of my favorite talk radio hosts used to >>>> say before he passed away “that’s why they make chocolate and >>>> vanilla” something for the different viewpoints. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>> <ty...@tysdomain.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this list. >>>> >>>> My last response on this list was cursed at and nothing is being >>>> done to stop it. As a result of the spam/cursing/general throwing >>>> of fits, I created a new list where rules can be enforced and we >>>> can have a good community. On 8/26/2015 2:46 AM, 'Gabriele >>>> Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on >>>>>>> 26/08/2015 at 05:29: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. 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