I wouldn't call this a comprentation, nor an argument. I wouldn't even call it
necessarily a debate. I think both you and Ray have very valid points on an
equal level.
Chris.
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From: 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam
None of that explains why they have to abandon the headphone jack. Your point
about the M4A encoding quality doesn't really address the issue, which is that
ITunes and Apple Music do not provide as good audio quality as other providers.
Surely, you are own guessing Apple's reasons for implimenting this, just in the
same way as I am. I am however prepared to accept that there may be quite a lot
of truth in what you've written my friend. I am however able to take a
seemingly more neutral and balanced approach to Apple. I love their
accessibility, but I do not appreciate the way they lock customers into their
products. I get the feeling that you might be an Apple extremist, unable to
find any fault with anything they do, advising people not to speak up against
their concerns. If their concerns are raised then at least this helps Apple
understand how their customers feel about their productts, which is very
valuable for any business. My Apple extremism analogy seems further supported
by your email signature. Apple is not a religion; it is a business. There is no
need to respond to critiques of said business with suce emotive fervour.
Well I must say, this is out of character for me. I normally avoid
confrontations on email lists and forums, but I'm quite enjoying myself. Hope
you are too.
. ,
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Jan 2016, at 12:09, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
Frankly, I think you are looking for a reason to abandin Apple anyway.
Sounds like it to me. I know that audio can both be received by the lightning
jack as well as send it out. Furthermore, the lightning jack can render true
5.1 channel sound. Can your precious 3.5 MM jack do that? Of course it
cannot. As for file resolution. YOu are wrong in stating that .m4a only goes
up to 256KBPS. I can code it as high as 320KBPS. I'm not sure if you bothered
to really pay attention to what I said but, Apple is soon going to role out
true high resolution audio. I'm quite certain they will have the adapters for
older headphone models.
!
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:45 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Does seem like a cynical money making scheme. There's no reason why they
can't have both options. All this means is that potentially people are going to
find there old headphones redundant. If Apple provide lightning to headphone
jack adapters then maybe this won't be so bad, but Apple are pretty good at
trying to corner their customers and force them into staying Apple. You can
only use ITunes on iPhones and iPods, not android devices. and IBooks can
only be accessed on Apple devices. Whereas Kindle books can be read on both
Amazons own devices as well as iPhones and iPods. You can't drag and drop files
from your computer to your phone like you can with most other phones. You can't
get content out of your phone from other apps like you can with other phones.
As for audio quality: Apple music and ITunes only go as high as 256 kbps. If
they cared about audio quality then surely this wouldn't be the case. Spotify
goes up to 320 kB per second, and services like tidal have los less audio
quality.
Finally, do we even know if a lightning to headphone jack would really be
possible? I do not want to be forced into buying proprietary headphones. If
this happens then I'll abandon Apple. I think it's important that people let
Apple know about their concerns. Maybe we should have done something similar
about their working conditions for their workers in China, but that's another
issue. Thanks.
Sent from my iPhone
On 18 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
I would advise having nothing to do with this. You are overlooking an
obvious benefit; and it's not just more money for Apple: rather it's this.
The plain fact is that it's better to lose the headphone jack because you can
get much better audio out of the lightning connecter than you can out of the
3.5MM jack. With the use of the lightning connecter, you can take advantage of
the high resolution audio format which Apple is said to be roling out soon.
Also, there are other advantages besides. Don't fall for this emotional
knee-jerk nonsense.
!
Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the
blind built-in
Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon
Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Terje Strømberg
<terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Friends,
If the rumours are true, the iPhone 7 will have a non-standard,
proprietary headphone jack -- meaning piles more cash for Apple and miles more
e-waste for the rest of us.
Sign this petition to get Apple to stick to the standard headphone
jack on the iPhone: http://action.sumofus.org/a/iphone-headphone-jack/?sub=mtl
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