What I! want to know is, if they're doing away with the home button, then how 
will we get to our home screen, or for that mind tripple click to start 
Voiceover?  I guess it would be capassitive button, kind of like the home icon 
is on most Android devices?

I'm not so much worried about how they'll do it, provided that they make sure 
to keep us blind individuals with accessibility needs in mind, which I'm quite 
confident they will do so.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 2:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam


  According to various rumour sources, there are a few reasons Apple is likely 
to abandon the headset jack.


  Thin iPhone - the iPhone is as thin as it can be currently. Apple likes thin 
devices, and so do several 'people I have asked. The jack needs to go for any 
thinner to be possible.


  Water resistance - Apparently, Apple is looking to make a waterproof device. 
they reportedly can make the lightning port waterproof, but not the headset 
jack.


  End-to-end display - Apple has pattented a way to embed a fingerprint reader 
across the bottom of the display, so no more home button. The display 
technology requires the space that the headset jack is currently occupying.


  Reportedly, Apple has a lightning to 3.5 mm headset adaptor. However, there 
are some rumours claiming Apple will replace the lightning port for the USB 
port found in the new MacBook.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 19 Jan 2016, at 02:49, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:


    None of that explains why they have to abandon the headphone jack. Your 
point about the M4A encoding quality doesn't really address the issue, which is 
that ITunes and Apple Music do not provide as good audio quality as other 
providers. Surely, you are own guessing Apple's reasons for implimenting this, 
just in the same way as I am. I am however prepared to accept that there may be 
quite a lot of truth in what you've written my friend. I am however able to 
take a seemingly more neutral and balanced approach to Apple. I love their 
accessibility, but I do not appreciate the way they lock customers into their 
products. I get the feeling that you might be an Apple extremist, unable to 
find any fault with anything they do, advising people not to speak up against 
their concerns. If their concerns are raised then at least this helps Apple 
understand how their customers feel about their productts, which is very 
valuable for any business. My Apple extremism analogy seems further supported 
by your email signature. Apple is not a religion; it is a business. There is no 
need to respond to critiques of said business with suce emotive fervour.


    Well I must say, this is out of character for me. I normally avoid 
confrontations on email lists and forums, but I'm quite enjoying myself. Hope 
you are too. 


    .  ,

    Sent from my iPhone

    On 18 Jan 2016, at 12:09, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:


      Frankly,  I think you are looking for a reason to abandin Apple anyway.  
Sounds like it to me.  I know that audio can both be received by the lightning 
jack as well as send it out.  Furthermore, the lightning jack can render true 
5.1 channel sound.  Can your precious 3.5 MM jack do that?  Of course it 
cannot.  As for file resolution.  YOu are wrong in stating that .m4a only goes 
up to 256KBPS.  I can code it as high as 320KBPS.  I'm not sure if you bothered 
to really pay attention to what I said but, Apple is soon going to role out 
true high resolution audio.  I'm quite certain they will have the adapters for 
older headphone models.  

      !


      Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


      Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

      Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


        On Jan 18, 2016, at 5:45 AM, 'onlineeagle' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:


        Does seem like a cynical money making scheme. There's no reason why 
they can't have both options. All this means is that potentially people are 
going to find there old headphones redundant. If Apple provide lightning to 
headphone jack adapters then maybe this won't be so bad, but Apple are pretty 
good at trying to corner their customers and force them into staying Apple. You 
can only use ITunes  on iPhones and iPods, not android devices.  and IBooks can 
only be accessed on Apple devices. Whereas Kindle books can be read on both 
Amazons own devices as well as iPhones and iPods. You can't drag and drop files 
from your computer to your phone like you can with most other phones. You can't 
get content out of your phone from other apps like you can with other phones. 
As for audio quality: Apple music and ITunes only go as high as 256 kbps. If 
they cared about audio quality then surely this wouldn't be the case.  Spotify 
goes up to 320 kB per second, and services like tidal have los less audio 
quality.


        Finally, do we even know if a lightning to headphone jack would really 
be possible? I do not want to be forced into buying proprietary headphones. If 
this happens then I'll abandon Apple. I think it's important that people let 
Apple know about their concerns. Maybe we should have done something similar 
about their working conditions for their workers in China, but that's another 
issue. Thanks.    

        Sent from my iPhone

        On 18 Jan 2016, at 11:17, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:


          I would advise having nothing to do with this.  You are overlooking 
an obvious benefit;  and it's not just more money for Apple:  rather it's this. 
 The plain fact is that it's better to lose the headphone jack because you can 
get much better audio out of the lightning connecter than you can out of the 
3.5MM jack.  With the use of the lightning connecter, you can take advantage of 
the high resolution audio format which Apple is said to be roling out soon.  
Also, there are other advantages besides.  Don't fall for this emotional 
knee-jerk nonsense.




          !


          Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in


          Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

          Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon 
Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!


            On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Terje Strømberg 
<terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:


            Friends,

            If the rumours are true, the iPhone 7 will have a non-standard, 
proprietary headphone jack -- meaning piles more cash for Apple and miles more 
e-waste for the rest of us.

            Sign this petition to get Apple to stick to the standard headphone 
jack on the iPhone: http://action.sumofus.org/a/iphone-headphone-jack/?sub=mtl

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