I don't so much think I'd go as far as to call this stupid.  that's a little 
strong, although I definitely would be willing to call it agrevating, that's 
for sure!

Chris.

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  From: Michael Marshall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 3:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam


  if this shockingly stupid decision is taken by apple do you think adapters 
would become available?
  this would be a very stupid decision, think of the bad press is what i would 
be screaming at them.

    On 19 Jan 2016, at 5:17 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:


    Hi everyone, while technology must advance, I'm troubled by replacing a 
universal standard with a proprietary connector, and would far rather see an 
industry-wide standard agreed upon, in the same way that USB C was adopted and 
is now being used by Apple on the new Macs.
    This has been all over social media, but for those who haven't read it yet, 
here's my blog post on the accessibility ramifications of the removal of the 
headphone jack.
    
http://mosen.org/index.php/an-iphone-without-a-headphone-jack-the-accessibility-ramifications/

    Jonathan Mosen
    Mosen Consulting
    Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
    http://Mosen.org


      On 19/01/2016, at 6:47 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:


      Back in the day I actually paid good money to "The Source" plus long 
distance to read news from the 84 Olympics at 300 BAUD. That and downloading 
walkthroughs for Zork :)

      CB

      On 1/18/16 11:46 AM, E.T. wrote:

        Not to overlook 300 baud. We are not in that much of a hurry are we 
these days? We can stand to sit and wait a week for a download. can we not?

          Its all in the name of progress. If its moving too fast, people can 
jump off at the next stop. There is always the next train.

          78s? There are those who probably swore at the invasion of LPs.

        From E.T.'s Keyboard...
          ancient.ali...@icloud.com
        Many believe that we have been visited
        in the past. What if it were true?

        On 1/18/2016 8:37 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote:

          So history rhymes a lot. Why would Apple go with that funky 3.5" disk
          when I already had boxes of 5 1/4" floppies. Dropping ADB for 
keyboards
          and mice to adopt the unknown USB means I had to get all new devices.
          What was so awful expensive about a CD drive that they had to leave it
          out of the newer machines? What were they thinking going with the 
little
          3.5mm jack when my 1/4" quadrophonic Koss headphones are still good? 
In
          all these cases Apple just moved on before the consumers really knew
          where the trends were going. Wouldn't it be possible that IF Apple
          dropped the last bastion of analog I/O they might actually include
          headphones with the new fangled connector? For those with nice 
high-end
          headphones a little adaptation might be in line but years from now 
we'll
          look back and wonder what the big deal was. In the end it's all
          disposable, just happening sooner than some would like. Sure some 
niche
          or luddite realms linger, but Apple doesn't seem to care as much about
          those. Vacuum tubes and vinyl LPs anyone? Yes, those are fighting 
words
          in some camps :)

          CB

          On 1/18/16 10:36 AM, E.T. wrote:

            Change is ever so very difficult yet change is exactly what brings 
us
            to this point in time. With change comes the task of breaking old
            obsolete habits and forming new ones.

              For example, look at the mad rush people make to trade in the last
            generation of iPhones even if it is perfectly functional, or stand 
in
            line overnight to get that new Apple TV.

              So Apple has very good reason for change. Its simple. People want
            change.

            From E.T.'s Keyboard...
              ancient.ali...@icloud.com
            Many believe that we have been visited
            in the past. What if it were true?

            On 1/18/2016 7:12 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

              Yes, the 3.5 m jack would go bye bye. You'd have to get new 
headphones,
              if this wind up being true which would have a lightning plug on 
the end,
              like your charger, instead of the rounded 3.5M plug.
              Chris.

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                 *From:* Kawal Gucukoglu <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>
                 *To:* Macvisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
                 *Sent:* Monday, January 18, 2016 10:01 AM
                 *Subject:* Re: Apple's headphone scam

                 Please could someone tell me how headphones could fit in a
                 lightening adaptor?  You mean there would be a different kind 
of
                 thing to put in a socket?

                 I don’t understand this headphone lightening connector thing.  
When
                 I sell my I phones, I normally sell the headphones as well if 
they
                 are still working by then.

                 Kawal. On 18 Jan 2016, at 14:37, Sabahattin Gucukoglu
                 <listse...@me.com <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote:


                   I’m afraid I just can’t quite bring myself to be sufficiently
                   moved.  I don’t like planned obsolescence or proprietary 
standards
                   either, but I’m also in the market for a new pair of travel
                   headphones, and I actually would love a digital path between 
my
                   iPhone and my headset.  I was not among those poor souls 
hurt by
                   the 30-pin to Lightning transition, because I was not quite 
so
                   silly as to buy expensive equipment with that connector. And,
                   yes, electronic waste is a terrible, terrible thing, but I 
doubt
                   Apple will fail to provide a transition for users of the 
3.5-mm
                   plug.  I know it’s painful, but we do need to move forward.

                   JMO.

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