No at best I think it means they are in contempt of court.  Tim Cook might also 
be somewhat personally involved as their chief but again this will be the clash 
of the titans.  A wet dream for law school professors and lawyers for decades 
to come.  Something tells me in the end it ends in a draw where everyone 
loses.:(

Very interesting.

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 3:20 AM, George Cham <george.c...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't 
> make apple an accessory to terrorism if they  don't  cooperate  with the FBI?
> 
> 
> George,
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need to use 
>> the pin code to open it for the first time
>> 
>> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search
>> 
>> Karen, you raise a really really good question.  Why don’t they just use the 
>> fingerprint of the phone owner.  He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry 
>> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:)  Couldn’t they lift a print or even 
>> a finger and just use that?
>> 
>> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in.
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such 
>>> as the fingerprints of  those involved.
>>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise 
>>> to develop.  Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have  their 
>>> privacy compromised in this fashion.
>>> After  all consider how often the government has themselves been 
>>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it could 
>>> be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being 
>>>> forced to cripple the security on iPhones.  Anyone have any comments?
>>>> 
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