Surely the back door to the ios app to allow the FBI in after the act has been committed isn't the thing they should be focusing on.
Why don’t they start doing something to stop the actions not only against the USA but the rest of the world. I'd say lock down the middle east and everyone but the people that should be there get the heck out. Like in the late 70s early 80s when people stopped flying in there Then when the locals start running out of food and resources start working a deal with them. Mind you then there are people like Richard branson I guess who start doing the opposite -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Saturday, 20 February 2016 2:39 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search Well theres one thing Apple can guaranty, I’m not upgrading my IOS on my primary phone any more.:) > On Feb 19, 2016, at 6:45 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You have a valid point, but it is a double-edged sword. Apple say’s if thet > let FBI get it, the bad guys will also get it. The backdoor in the software. > I like the private IOS device, but if most terrorists starts to use iPhone, > they have to give the information to FBI. There most likely is a FBI way i.e. > not open up the backdoor in software for anyone, but for only FBI. > > Take care > > 19. feb. 2016 kl. 09:20 skrev George Cham <george.c...@optusnet.com.au>: > > That's a good point about the fingerprint. But my question is this doesn't > make apple an accessory to terrorism if they don't cooperate with the FBI? > > > George, > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 19 Feb 2016, at 6:53 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >> >> Apart from that point where if your phone battery dies and you need >> to use the pin code to open it for the first time >> >> Or did they even have finguerprints setup on the devices. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Friday, 19 February 2016 8:11 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable >> search >> >> Karen, you raise a really really good question. Why don’t they just use the >> fingerprint of the phone owner. He’s dead anyway so you don’t have to worry >> about his specific rights, he’s dead.:) Couldn’t they lift a print or even >> a finger and just use that? >> >> Now I really smell a rat since they had the body and had a means in. >> >>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Not only is Apple 100% correct here, the FBI is not using other doors, such >>> as the fingerprints of those involved. >>> A master key like the one the FBI desires seeing created is simply unwise >>> to develop. Hackers have anoth leeway, and no one should have their >>> privacy compromised in this fashion. >>> After all consider how often the government has themselves been >>> hacked, not only could this key be abused by the government, it >>> could be stolen by others. Just my take, Karen >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2016, Scott Granados wrote: >>>> >>>> Wonder if anyone else is following Tim Cook’s position against being >>>> forced to cripple the security on iPhones. 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