Hello;  as the problem is with snow lepard is there a chance someone  
on this list would know how to get to the correct subfolder in address  
book so the people needing to do this would have a working solution  
until apple fixes the problem in snow lepard. good luck, Max
On Nov 24, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Tony and Nic,
>
> Tony wrote:
>>>> How on earth can I create groups in adressbook? The problem I have
>>>> is when I created the group from the file menu the name is
>>>> untitled and I can not get it to change to for example Work.
>>>> Any Idea?
>
> I don't know whether there are new problems with creating groups in
> Address Book under Snow Leopard, but here are directions for creating
> groups under Leopard, pasted from a post I made to the mac-access list
> back in July.  They may not help you, since changing the name of a
> group under Address Book is not a problem under Leopard.  If Address
> Book does not simply accept what you type in as a name when you create
> the group using the file menu command, under Leopard you can activate
> the edit field by either pressing the return key, the tab key, or by
> routing the mouse cursor to your selection with VO-Command-F5 and then
> using VO-Shift-Space to "click" on the group name.  Turning on NumPad
> Commander and pressing "5" on the numeric keypad also works to click
> on the group name in the last example.
>
> Anyway, here are the instructions that describe how to use "New Group
> from Selection" and non-contiguous selection.  The numbered
> instructions are given after a description of the process. This works
> for Leopard.  It would be useful to report back whether any of this
> still works in Snow Leopard.
>
> <begin excerpt>
> Subject:    Working with Groups in Address Book [was Re: Importing
> contacts (revisited)]
>
> Date:   July 27, 2009
>
> Hi,
>
> You can create and edit groups similar to the way you can create and
> edit playlists in iTunes.  I recently answered a question off-list on
> non-contiguous selection; use that to create your groups.  Let's
> assume you have no groups at all and want to create one by selecting
> items from the group named "All" that contains all contacts in your
> Address Book using non-contiguous selection.  Turn off cursor tracking
> (VO-Shift-F3), use VO-Command-Space to select entries, turn cursor
> tracking back on (VO-Shift-F3), then go to the File menu on the
> Address Book menu bar and select the "New Group from Selection"
> option.  Type in the name of the group.  Rename groups by double-
> clicking on the group name with VO-Shift-Space (press Control-Option-
> Shift and tap the space bar twice) and typing in the new name.  This
> is the same way you rename playlists in iTunes. (Tabbing also seems to
> let you enter a new name in a group you created, but I'm finding that
> an annoyance, since I want to use it to navigate to the name table --
> not use VO-Right arrow.)  You can also add entries to the group you
> created with copy and paste.  You need to copy from the Name table of
> one group and paste to the Name table of the group you want to add to.
> If you want to select multiple rows in sequence to copy, hold down the
> Shift key and use your arrow keys. Show selected items with VO-F6.
> For a long list you can lock your VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) so
> you only need to make selections by pressing Command-Space and check
> your selections by pressing F6.  Then unlock your keys by pressing
> semi-colon, turn cursor tracking back on, and navigate to the File
> menu a new group from your selection.  The "Last Imported" group must
> be a smart group like the "Recently added" smart playlist in iTunes.
> You could make this a regular (permanent) group for this by first
> creating a new group (Command-Shift-N).  Then select "Last Imported"
> in the group table, tab to the Name table and select all (Command-A).
> Copy (Command-C), navigate back to the group table (Shift-Tab), new
> group from your selection with the File menu option (VO-M; press "F";
> arrow down to "New Group from Selection")
>
> 1. Navigate to the Group table and select "All"
> 2. Tab to the Name table and interact
> 3. Navigate to the first contact name you want to select
> 4. Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3)
> 5. Navigate through the list (e.g. VO-Down Arrow) and add selections
> (VO-Command-Space)
> 6. Optionally check selections with VO-F6
> 7. Turn cursor tracking back on when done (VO-Shift-F3)
> 8. Create a new group from your selection (VO-M to menu bar; press "F"
> for File menu; arrow down to "New Groups from Selection"
>
> Other comments:
> • You can create a new group first using the button below the Group
> Table (VO-Down Arrow) or the shortcut (Command-Shift-N) and then paste
> your selection into the Name Table for the group.  I was just finding
> it annoying to have to use the VO-arrow keys to navigate between
> tables because pressing tab on a created group always seems to invoke
> the edit field, so I have to VO-Right arrow to the Name table.
> • VO-Command-Space is a toggle action, so you can de-select items
> you've selected by pressing VO-Command-Space as well as select new
> items; then check your selection with VO-F6
> • Locking VoiceOver keys (VO-Semi-Colon) and using Command-Space is
> convenient for long lists. Remember to turn this off when you're done
> by pressing Semi-Colon
> • Remember you can get to the top or bottom of a table with VO-Home
> and VO-End (or VO-Fn-Shift-Left Arrow and Right Arrow on a laptop).
> • It's clear that Address Book isn't in as good shape as iTunes with
> respect to navigation and other options with  groups. For example, it
> would be useful to have an option that tells you which groups a given
> contact is listed in and it would be useful if you could copy and
> paste to the group table entry rather than navigating to the
> corresponding name table.
>
> <end excerpt>
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
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