Hi,

I absolutely do not believe this bone conduction thing. I have a pair of the 
Blues as well, and there is no change in sound quality if I pull the headset 
apart enough so that nothing touches my face. Try it yourself and tell me if 
you notice a difference. That said, the speakers blasting and bleeding sound 
out in front of your ears do allow you to hear both your device and ambient 
sound. But true bone conduction will have no bleeding. Excellent hands on 
exhibit at the Exploratorium in SF on this. Actually, it’s more of a teeth on 
exhibit.

—k
Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
questions.


On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> I absolutely swear by mine, yes.  OK, there may be a little bit of leakage, 
> but they're bone induction, so give them some credit.  You're never gonna 
> *totally!* get rid of that.  Compared to the 1st generation though, the Bluez 
> 2S model is really great, and has improved this quite significantly.
> 
> As for the newer model, I think it's called the Treck? Don't quote me on that 
> title though, it's only available in selected markets from what I understand, 
> but I hear it is unbelievable.  I've never seen one though, so I can't really 
> comment.  Knowing though what I do about their products, I'd strongly 
> recommend trying it.
> 
> The only thing really that I would say I have totally against Aftershokz, is 
> though their customer service is great in general, don't expect them to keep 
> their promises in a timely manor!
> 
> When I broke my tention band strap, they said they'd send me a replacement, 
> which yes, they did, but oh what a mes!  First, they said they'd send it 
> over-night, and wouldn't charge me for it, nor shipping, which of course, 
> they didn't, but over night turned into about a month and a half before I got 
> the dad blame thing.  And when I did, it was the wrong strap.  I was so angry 
> for the wait, and for the time it took, I sent them photos of the wrong strap 
> they sent, and photos of my broken strap, and demanded that they over-night 
> it again correctly, and not delay things.
> 
> They not only told me the unit had been shipped out, but they even went so 
> far as to tell me it was estimated to arrive in half a week, which I later 
> determined that they not even shipped it to start with, let alone knew the 
> delivery date.  Once I got a rep on the phone to spill that confession, I 
> asked for a supervisor to call me back.  I told them if I didn't hear back 
> within 24 hours max, I'd be putting a bad review up on my blog, Amazon, their 
> own web site, etc.
> 
> This time, they complied.  Within about half a day, I heard from a manager.  
> Though very very short and terse with me, you could tell he didn't want to be 
> in this position, he asked what could be done to make things right.  I told 
> him, I only have the 1st generation headset.  Send me the 2nd gen on the 
> house over-nighted.  No charge to me at all for shipping, nor for the actual 
> headset itself.  He was very hesitant, but he did it.
> 
> Granted, I didn't get it over night as he promised.  It took about 3 weeks.
> 
> My point being, you'd be better off buying their stuff through Amazon, or a 
> 3rd party reseller.  The products themselves are steller!  Absolutely killer! 
>  I'd never ask for anythying else, but that said, their phone support is 
> absolutely horrible, and frankly, I'd not trust those guys there at the 
> headquarters call center as far as I could throw 'em.
> 
> Still though, don't let that turn you off from the product itself.  And, if 
> you ever did need a replacement, or something, I never said the people there 
> wouldn't help you.  They will, but just know, it won't be quick, that's for 
> sure.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 7:35 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
> 
> I always forget about that option.  I’veneer tried them as i’ve heard about 
> issues with build quality and the like but it may be worth considering.  
> Sounds like you like yours.
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Why not look into the Aftershokz lineup?  I swear by mine!
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>> 
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" 
>> <sc...@qualityip.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, the edge is still the best headset in my opinion.  It amazes me how 
>> long both headsets have been out with no replacement.
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 8:50 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Scott,
>>> 
>>> I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device 
>>> back in  the day,
>>> 
>>> Would you still put it above the Edge?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's 
>>> accessibility wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device, I just need 
>>> to stop being so hard on headsets.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
>>> 
>>> Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of specifications 
>>> that are standardized so aside some special features in general most things 
>>> work pretty well with each other.  There are headsets in general though 
>>> that work better than others.  This is one of the favorite topics of mine 
>>> and also the moderator’s Mark I believe.
>>> 
>>> In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same players 
>>> on top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the era by 
>>> jawbone.  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and the 
>>> plantronics is the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on what 
>>> your goal is.  If you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, medium 
>>> battery life and have the same toys as the cool kids buy a Jawbone.  If you 
>>> want your headset to work in all conditions, want fantastic noise 
>>> reduction, don’t care about the fact there’s a boom microphone and you need 
>>> great battery life then the plantronics voyager pro legend is the way to 
>>> go.  Hands down the plastrons works the best it’s just whether your concern 
>>> is mostly function or you want some style.
>>> 
>>> How’s that?
>>> 
>>> BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
>>> both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional 
>>> calls and work environment the only option.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:53 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. 
>>>> my brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of 
>>>> them don't work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I 
>>>> may just need the headphones because today i did a Skype call using 
>>>> my iPhone and the guy was really impressed with the quality. thanks 
>>>> for your help, max
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