I have to correct myself on the noise cancelling bit. The Marque 2 does have 
some noise cancelling or noise reduction, but not as good as the Edge has as I 
read online.

Ronald
 
> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 17:13 heeft Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> So jawbone is actually a pretty good name because it pings your jawbone to 
> detect activity.  Most people are not aware of bone conduction.  Out side of 
> our community the military is probably the only user.
> 
> In later versions of the jawbone like the Era the censor is not absolutely 
> required.  It does work better using the censor but you don’t necessarily 
> have to use it.
> 
> As far it’s appearance, very small. Shaped like the old jawbone but if you 
> haven’t seen one it’s a small stylized shape with a piece that fits in your 
> ear and then a piece that sits on your cheek bone or jawbone. The whole deal 
> is about an inch long if that an half inch wide.  Weight is only a few grams.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Ronald van Rhijn <pa...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> Scott,
>> 
>> Thanks for the clearification! The name Jawbone is a little bit misleading.
>> I still dont want to be bothered to keep the sensor on my jaw or cheek.
>> How does it look like,  how long is such divice as the Era?
>> 
>> Ronald
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 23 mrt. 2016, om 13:35 heeft Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> To be clear, the jawbone does not * use * bone induction.  Not even close.  
>>> There is a small censor that rests on your cheek / jawbone that is a noise 
>>> gate.  When you speak one of the first things that happens before sound 
>>> leaves your mouth is your jaw starts to move.  That movement triggers the 
>>> censor which opens the noise gate and allows your voice in.  If you’re not 
>>> speaking the noise gate is closed and sound isn’t picked up.  They use this 
>>> a lot in military headsets for example helicopters and tanks.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 4:55 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ronald does that also have a microphone or is seri picking up your voice 
>>>> through its microphone. i'd really rather go with traditional ear phone 
>>>> type instead of bone induction myself. thanks max
>>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Ronald van Rhijn wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just bought me a Plantronics Marque 2 (m165) single earpiece headset 
>>>>> after looking at all the options.
>>>>> I considered the Jawbone Era and Plantronics Edge as well, but the 
>>>>> Jawbone models need to touch your jaw in order to function properly. 
>>>>> Don’t know if this is part or full bone conduction , but didn’t want to 
>>>>> have something to be on my face. The Plantronics Edge is larger than the 
>>>>> Marque 2 and more expensive. The additional features of the Edge like 
>>>>> noise cancelling and charge unit I don’t need. So I bought the Marque 2 
>>>>> and very satisfied with it where I use it for, some reading in public 
>>>>> transit. The unit has some physical buttons for volume, on/off switch end 
>>>>> multipurpose button for Siri, answering etc. The unit speaks when turning 
>>>>> on how much talktime there is left, the pairing process, volume etc.  The 
>>>>> Marque 2 costst about 50 euro.
>>>>> Ronald
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Op 20 mrt. 2016, om 01:50 heeft Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> het 
>>>>>> volgende geschreven:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've not tried the Plantronics legend but know it was a great device 
>>>>>> back in  the day,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would you still put it above the Edge?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I used one of the early era devices but at that point it's 
>>>>>> accessibility wasn't great. Still it was an excellent device,
>>>>>> I just need to stop being so hard on headsets.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016 4:53 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: blue tooth headsets
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Max, your brother is misinformed.  Bluetooth is a series of 
>>>>>> specifications that are standardized so aside some special features in 
>>>>>> general most things work pretty well with each other.  There are 
>>>>>> headsets in general though that work better than others.  This is one of 
>>>>>> the favorite topics of mine and also the moderator’s Mark I believe.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In my mind there are two ways to go and there have been the 2 same 
>>>>>> players on top for a while now.  There is the plantronics legend and the 
>>>>>> era by jawbone.  The Jawbone is the most stylish / smallest headset and 
>>>>>> the plantronics is the largest most utilitarian of the two.  Depends on 
>>>>>> what your goal is.  If you want to look cool, have good noise reduction, 
>>>>>> medium battery life and have the same toys as the cool kids buy a 
>>>>>> Jawbone.  If you want your headset to work in all conditions, want 
>>>>>> fantastic noise reduction, don’t care about the fact there’s a boom 
>>>>>> microphone and you need great battery life then the plantronics voyager 
>>>>>> pro legend is the way to go.  Hands down the plastrons works the best 
>>>>>> it’s just whether your concern is mostly function or you want some style.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How’s that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BTW I use the voyager pro legend almost exclusively now although I carry 
>>>>>> both.  I find the plantronics just more stable and for my professional 
>>>>>> calls and work environment the only option.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2016, at 2:53 AM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hello; I'm wanting to buy a blue tooth headset to go with my iPhone. my 
>>>>>>> brother said that when he looked online he heard that a lot of them 
>>>>>>> don't work with the iPhone. so what would you all recommend? I may just 
>>>>>>> need the headphones because today i did a Skype call using my iPhone 
>>>>>>> and the guy was really impressed with the quality. thanks for your 
>>>>>>> help, max
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