It would be cool but that’s a big ask. Cryptography is a difficult thing. We might think it’s good and then all the sudden some smart intern in Bell Labs comes up with a system that renders it useless. (AKA what happened to Clipper) Or you have other systems developed by school children in Ireland that the NSA can’t crack. You just never know. I think Tim the executive he is probably believed his phone was reasonably secure. But you’re talking about a very real adversary with very real skills in this case. Its not like Scott in his home lab is trying to crack the phone, a company spun up by an intelligence agency was involved here with very deep pockets and many resources. Even theoretically brute force attacks work if you through enough resources at them.
> On Mar 29, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This makes me wonder if Tim Cook is telling the truth. If memory serves, he > said they can’t brake into one iPhone without breaking into all iPhones sort > of i.e. making a backdoor in all IOS. > > So, now the security company’s may clap their hands while their customer base > grows. > > It would be cool to have an IOS that neither FBI or the bad guys could brake > in. > > Take care > >> 30. mar. 2016 kl. 02.45 skrev Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com>: >> >> So they gave it to Mosard? >> >> I heard some rumour that God works for the Mosard! >> >> Still good on apple if the Feds had to give it to the israilies >> >> . >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados >> Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 1:59 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple >> >> So the Fat Bald and Ignorant agency did not hack the phone, the outsourced >> it to real professionals in this case the Israeli Intelligence. 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