Scott that makes sense, And depending on where your data is being kept, of course it can be hacked.
Case in point iCloud -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2016 2:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple Simon, that’s utter horse cocky. If the Fat Bald and Ignorant bunch in DC can crack it open what makes you think the chinese can’t, or anonymous, or lolsec or what happens when next year at Deffcon all the show attendees find the contents of their iPhones displayed on the airport monitors around Vegas? I’m quoting things that have happened before with other environments.:) So sure, maybe you’re a good boy, you walk just right, vote just right and toe the line and then a Russian hacker pulls your credit cards or spies on you and gets your pins from your phone. You still did nothing wrong yet your phone, through no fault of your own was compromised because some buckle head in Washington asked that it be done for national security which is a load of BS because one of the special projects agencies probably provided the terrorists the bullets they used in the first place. It’s all staged for our consumption and we the innocent are the ones being killed to make their points. And even with the political aside, once your phone is broken it’s fair game. Hackers, thieves, identity thieves, and so forth now will target you where they once could not. Good luck with that. > On Mar 29, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > YesVaughan, > > I agree, > > But if they have managed to now do it once they can then do it again > > But the thing to really remember is that If you don't do anything to raise > alerts of the FBI or other lack of intelligence agencies then you will have > nothing to worry about. > I've personally done nothing to be concerned about if I travelled > through the USA And If the FEDS wanted to look at tmy phone, I'd let > them but I'd want it replaced with an exact product I know I have nothing to > be worried about. > > As for terrorists well they're going to have to figure out at some point that > what they are doing isn't written in any document other than what they write > themselves. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaughn Brown > Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2016 7:26 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: FBI drop case against apple > > I must say that I am glad the FBI hacked into the phone from which the > terrorist operated from. Now, I do believe in privacy and would hope that > this phone hack was an individual case; and what technique was applied cannot > be applied to all phones. > It is only fair that raging a war on terrorists involves obtaining as much > information from the individual as possible. > Vaughn > > On 3/29/16, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com> wrote: >> It's just not true that anything one person can make, someone else >> can break. There are plenty of forms of encryption that simply cannot >> be broken. The fact that the FBI got into this phone doesn't disprove that. >> For all we know, they hacked into the guy's facebook account and >> when they tried that same password on his phone, it worked. It could >> be something as simple as that. >> >> The fact that the FBI eventually got into this phone doesn't prove >> there is some fundamental flaw in Apple's security. Most likely, the >> terrorist just overlooked something. It might even be something so >> obscure that almost anyone would overlook it. The vast majority of >> hacks are things of that nature. >> >> >> On 03/29/2016 08:06 AM, Scott Berry wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think your wrong. Here is the scoop. Anything can be broken it >>> doesn’t matter what it is. It’s been proven time and time again if >>> a human makes it a human can break it and that’s all I have to say >>> read between the lines. >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu >>>> <listse...@me.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It’s a bit concerning though, because it implies that the FBI now >>>> have a way to break Apple’s security. 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