Hi Percy & all,

Contact Helen Brown <he...@accordancebible.com>

and ask her whats the status with accordance on the  mac using VoiceOver?
I also encourage all those on the list to do the same as she might think I'm 
the only one out here that would like to use accordance again! ;)
Last time we spoke she said VoiceOver  was on the radar and coming soon. :)
HTH
Chuck

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 Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he 
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On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Percy Garrett wrote:

>                 Hi, I have downloaded biple pro, desktop bible and accordance 
> to my Mac. The desktop bible has limited accessibility and the others seem to 
> allow no accessibility. There are tons of unlabled and nonresponsive buttons. 
> Any good suggestion will be appreciated. I am trying to leave the windows 
> based computers and go all of the way with the Mac, but locating an 
> accessible bible library is prohibiting my progress.
> Percy Garrett
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> From: David Griffith
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
>  
> I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I found 
> and the eventual solution.
> In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a 
> unannounced button on the logon screen.
> 
> The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance update which 
> required a restart.
> I have never before encountered this screen before when I have agreed any  OS 
> maintenance update. Normally after an update the Mac restarts into the 
> updated OS without any intervention on my part.
> 
> . On this latest update though the update stalls and will not complete unless 
> you start Voiceover manually and log in using the instructions I posted 
> earlier.
> Now the update has completed hopefully this problem will disappear.
> David Griffith
> 
> On 17/04/2016 21:32, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> I have the latest update on my I Mac and Mac Mini and I have never seen the 
>> screen that David has referred to.  However, if a login screen did come up, 
>> I have it set like my work windows machine, where I put in my name and 
>> password.  Other than that, if I don’t do that, then it would automatically 
>> log me in.  I’m sure you can set your login in preferences if you go to 
>> usernames and accounts can’t you?
>>  
>> As stated before, I haven’t encountered many bugs as I did a clean install 
>> before I put Elcap on both machines.
>>  
>> Kawal.
>>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 17:35, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> David,
>>> 
>>> Just to be clear, the only options available are Password, Shutdown, reboot?
>>> 
>>> What does VO-F1 say for this screen.
>>> 
>>> What happens if you type escape.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 17 Apr 2016, at 11:47, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> dthanks - I was not  clear enough in my explanation of the issue.
>>>> This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance  update today, 
>>>> not a install of any kind.
>>>> In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should 
>>>> not be any issue there.
>>>> However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my 
>>>> system settings not to require a log on,  and which has never appeared 
>>>> before, there is nowhere that voiceover sees to enter a User ID. The only 
>>>> visible to Voiceover edit box is just the password field.
>>>> After entering this you are then locked into just sleep, shutdown and 
>>>> restart as your options.
>>>> I strongly recommend that that people do not install this update if this 
>>>> is the consequence.
>>>> I remember a Mac friend ringing me to complain about this issue which 
>>>> occured for him also some time ago so it may be a rogue bug in the OS, it 
>>>> is certainly annoying.
>>>> 
>>>> David Griffith
>>>> 
>>>> On 17/04/2016 16:32, Basioli George wrote:
>>>>> david
>>>>> this is your user account login and if you did a clean install you need 
>>>>> to create a user login that is not the apple login
>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty 
>>>>>> disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the 
>>>>>> Mac nowadays.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved 
>>>>>> any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access 
>>>>>> barriers.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am 
>>>>>> required to provide one.
>>>>>> I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then 
>>>>>> available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece 
>>>>>> of kit.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a 
>>>>>> Voiceover user?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David Griffith
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