Hi, I agree totally with your assessment here. Although, regarding the MacPro, I installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM. It runs quite well with El Capitan now.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that requires more and more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I can live with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey. CB On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all. For most products now once you buy > it your stuck with what you got. As Simon mentioned there may be an access > panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered to the > board. > >> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain <saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested in >> doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for RAM >> upgrades. >>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself, >>> you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be >>> upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent. >>> >>> Portia. >>> >>> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hey Arnold, >>>> >>>> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012. >>>> >>>> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it. >>>> >>>> Portia. >>>> >>>> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote: >>>>> It is from 2011. It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4 >>>>> gig >>>>> of ram. It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me. They want >>>>> about $430 for this computer. 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