Scott,

MacPro it is.  I have three at various locations within our School District, a 
few older X-Serves and some good old Mac Minis all running as OS X Servers and 
I liked the MacPro so much, I got one for home as well.  It's a 2009 model, so 
doesn't have the oomph that the newer cylindrical ones do, but it's a 
work-horse.  I do also have a MacBook Pro, but that's a different story.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jul 11, 2016, at 20:38, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:

Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might be 
a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re using 
the later, any impressions?



> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, I 
> installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 
> TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite well 
> with El Capitan now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people 
> could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting 
> things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, 
> it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark 
> before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook 
> Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the 
> basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned 
> obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that requires more and 
> more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I 
> can live with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. 
> At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>> to the board.
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain <saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
>>> in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for 
>>> RAM upgrades.
>>>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to yourself,
>>>> you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, mine can be
>>>> upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is decent.
>>>> 
>>>> Portia.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Arnold,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Portia.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but only 4
>>>>>> gig
>>>>>> of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty for me.  They want
>>>>>> about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any opinions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
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