HI Scott,

 I've seen one being used but haven't had a play with one myself.

 The new mac pros that is.

 They resemble a small trash bin,
 Almost like a small R2D2  droid.

 But nothing showing on the front but you turn them around and they've got a 
panel approx. 5inchs square that has all the connections on it.

 The model I got to see was the vbasic version with only 16 gig ram, but we 
priced one for a joke that was fully speced to the max that came to just under 
30 thousand NZ dollars.

 Very fast machine if you have a SSD with the os on it and good amount of ram.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Opinions On This Used Mac Mini

Hi Tim, by mac pro do you mean a Macbook pro or a real mac pro desktop.  I’ve 
been thinking about getting a mac pro desktop but (power work station might be 
a better word for it) but I haven’t met anyone who’s used one.  If you’re using 
the later, any impressions?



> On Jul 11, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree totally with your assessment here.  Although, regarding the MacPro, I 
> installed a SSD into Bay 1 of mine, created a fusion drive between it and a 1 
> TB spinner in Bay 2 and knocked it up to 16 GB of RAM.  It runs quite well 
> with El Capitan now.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Jul 11, 2016, at 15:21, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Nothing new here, Apple is just better at keeping consumers out of their 
> widgets now then back in the Mac Plus days. They figured out that most people 
> could pick up a long T15 Torx screwdriver without much trouble but getting 
> things unsoldered without burning the board is a different thing. Then again, 
> it used to be that a machine would barley creak past the three year mark 
> before failing, if they made it that far. My 2008 Mac Pro and 2012 MacBook 
> Pro are still humming along just fine at work. So are the PowerMac G4 in the 
> basement and the 2009 Mini hooked to the TV at home. It's no longer planned 
> obsolescence through hardware failure but by software that requires more and 
> more. Eventually support is dropped and I have to make the call on whether I 
> can live with a particular piece of hardware running software frozen in time. 
> At least with the MacPro it can still run OSX 10.11 even if it's a bit pokey.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 7/9/16 8:01 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>> Apple doesn’t want you to upgrade at all.  For most products now once you 
>> buy it your stuck with what you got.  As Simon mentioned there may be an 
>> access panel on the iMac but for the most part everything is hard soldered 
>> to the board.
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 8:02 AM, Saqib Hussain <saqib1...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi. Can you upgrade the RAM on the latest Mac Mini? I would be interested 
>>> in doing this but I think Apple prefer we didn’t go to a local retailer for 
>>> RAM upgrades.
>>>> On 7 Jul 2016, at 18:20, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Also, if you know a good computer store, or you know how to 
>>>> yourself, you can upgrade the ram, I believe up to 16 GB. At least, 
>>>> mine can be upgraded that much, yours may be only 8 GB. Still, that is 
>>>> decent.
>>>> 
>>>> Portia.
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/7/16, Portia Scott <portia.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hey Arnold,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is the exact model I got, but it is from 2012.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I honestly think it would be a great buy, as I've read the reviews on it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Portia.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/7/16, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>>>> It is from 2011.  It has an i5, I think 2.5 gig, processor, but 
>>>>>> only 4 gig of ram.  It has a 500 gig hard drive, which is plenty 
>>>>>> for me.  They want about $430 for this computer.  Thanks for any 
>>>>>> opinions.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
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