Oh! wicked!  Now that! is just cockeyed!

Chris.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ray Foret jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Okay.  I got it working again.  Here’s the long and the short of how to fix 
it then I’ll tell you what I think happened.


  1.  Double tap the search tab as usual.


  2.  Manually type in the search you want.


  3.  Now, place one finger on the search button at the bottom right and tap 
with the other finger ten times on the screen.  


  This will pull you in to the updates tab but when you go back in to the 
search tab, all should be normal now.  It would appear that sighted folks have 
been having this issue ever since early May of this year.  I found this 
solution on the Apple support forums.


  I figured that split tapping was the best way to handle this since you have 
to tap the search button ten times quickly.


  HTH.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! 


    On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    I actually, did, Google, and others sighted yes, are having the issue.  
It's horrendous!

    I was talking to accessibility, but the lady's phone was constantly cutting 
in and out.  I told her to call back, she said she would, but that was about an 
hour ago, and still've heard nothing.  Go figure.
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ray Foret jr
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:37 PM
      Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


      Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an 
hour now and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  
If it were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have 
solved it by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a 
deliberate change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with force 
touch.  You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong right?  
Well, I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and work it 
out, we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance they have to 
offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search to see if 
sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if they are, the 
Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.


      Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about 
tapping my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major 
change in the UI.




      Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

      Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
      Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! 


        On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


        So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones 
which don't support 3D touch?

        Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
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          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Ray Foret jr
          To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
          Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
          Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


          Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a 
search for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results 
come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped 
on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I 
had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


          1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings. 
 I say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


          2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened    
iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so 
that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how 
we are supposed to find stuff now.


          Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment. 
 I could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to 
me like that’s what’s happened.




          Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
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          Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
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            On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


            Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on 
top of that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the 
app store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having 
some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  
If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of 
acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier,          when 
I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 
2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.
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              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: David Chittenden
              To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
              Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
              Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


              I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an 
iPhone 5S, and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on            the search tab on the 
bottom of the display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my 
query using the onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right 
corner. Or, I use braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers to 
activate search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before 
writing this message.

              David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
              Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
              Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
              Sent from my iPhone

              On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> 
wrote:


                I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 
7 and IOS 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing 
enters in the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not 
read the results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a 
pretty serious issue.

                  On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
wrote:


                    What search tab? Just find the search field where its 
always been located.

                  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
                   Are We Alone in the Universe?
                  ancient.ali...@icloud.com

                  On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

                    So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the 
search tab, I
                    only some of the time now see my search box at the top of 
the screen.
                    If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but 
if I then
                    flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  
If I try
                    using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  
If I
                    manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but 
the search
                    button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in 
fact, as soon as
                    I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen 
to tap
                    search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the 
update tab
                    instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a 
little bit.
                    Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and 
how it
                    works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond 
a doubt.

                    Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm 
definitely
                    doing it correctly.

                    The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry 
out, mind you
                    I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. 
The key
                    word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything 
come up, not
                    that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results 
came up after
                    doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search 
after the search
                    field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.

                    I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and 
reconnected to my
                    wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even 
factory reset
                    the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't 
restore from a
                    backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I 
just              start
                    over clean.

                    It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's 
weirded on the
                    mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store 
anymore with
                    command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It 
bwonks at me, if I
                    try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio 
button, then
                    VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!

                    Is anyone else seeing this stuff?

                    Chris.

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