Yep, the fix I posted last night, (work around honestly) feels very much hit 
and miss.  I don’t know what Apple was thinking, but, in a way , it sort of 
reminds me of the maps debacle when they just beta tested it with folks in 
Cupertino and then just naively thought it would work everywhere and Cook wound 
up with egg all over his face.  Steve Jobs would never ever ever have permitted 
this.  Jobs Cook is NOT.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!!

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just spoke to Apple Accessibility, they finally called back.  Apparently, 
> it took them so long, as they were really really looking into it.  
> Apparently, they said they indeed are having major major major issues, with 
> the app store.
>  
> This can be confirmed if you look at the forums on
>  
> http://discussions.apple.com <http://discussions.apple.com/>
>  
> For what it's worth, I just tried a second ago on my 6S, and the old 
> interface is totally totally back and is working  flawlessly.  So, hold in 
> there guys.  I think they're aware that there new approach didn't work after 
> all.  Thank god they have image rollbacks.  The guy I spoke with, actually 
> ironically just happened to be an engineer himself as well as an 
> accessibility senior advisor.  He said he couldn't really go into much due to 
> propriatary confidentiality sake, but, he said they are aware of it, and they 
> are aware it didn't work at all.  It's just a matter of them rolling things 
> back.  They're doing it apparently, he said in phases though, so if your 
> devices still in the app store seem busted, give it about a day or so and it 
> should be back to how we know it as.
>  
> Chris.
>  
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Robin <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide Variety of iPhones on the Market, 
>> which aren't capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, which is 
>> Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,&iPhone7
>> But
>> the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
>> iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,&iPhoneSE 
>> And
>> All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
>> JustSayin'
>> At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
>>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>>> don't support 3D touch?
>>>  
>>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>>> ---
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net> 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a 
>>> search for “grand clock†and try though I might, I could not make the 
>>> results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  
>>> Then, it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  
>>> Then, I double tapped on the “view†button just off to the right of it.  
>>> Y’all, from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has 
>>> gone and done two things. 
>>> 
>>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
>>> say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, 
>>> I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that 
>>> the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
>>> somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
>>> without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on 
>>> how we are supposed to find stuff now.
>>> 
>>> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
>>> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks 
>>> to me like that’s what’s happened.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>>>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>>>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>>>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just 
>>>> having some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>>>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>>>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  
>>>> Earlier, when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file 
>>>> should a taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, 
>>>> yeah... something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can 
>>>> come up with.
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>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
>>>>> and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
>>>>> display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query 
>>>>> using the onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right 
>>>>> corner. Or, I use braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers 
>>>>> to activate search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right 
>>>>> before writing this message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com 
>>>>> <mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and 
>>>>>> IOS 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing 
>>>>>> enters in the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does 
>>>>>> not read the results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. 
>>>>>> Looking like a pretty serious issue.
>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
>>>>>>> located.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>>>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
>>>>>>>> only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
>>>>>>>> If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
>>>>>>>> flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
>>>>>>>> using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
>>>>>>>> manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
>>>>>>>> button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon 
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
>>>>>>>> search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
>>>>>>>> instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
>>>>>>>> Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
>>>>>>>> works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
>>>>>>>> doing it correctly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
>>>>>>>> I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. The key
>>>>>>>> word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
>>>>>>>> that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
>>>>>>>> doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the 
>>>>>>>> search
>>>>>>>> field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
>>>>>>>> the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
>>>>>>>> backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
>>>>>>>> over clean.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning, and what's weirded on the
>>>>>>>> mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
>>>>>>>> command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if 
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris.
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