I'm not aware of a keyboard equivalent, no. This is why I say, Apple didn't
really think this one out that well, in my personal opinion, at least. Sure,
there is mapping a keyboard commander, which is what I did, but, still...
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From: Brandt Steenkamp
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups. com
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Braille Navigation annoyances
Hi there,
We all know about the 3 finger double tap on the track pad for muting speech,
is there a similar command for the keyboard? Some Braille displays such as the
PacMate 20 and 40 cell models does not have a keyboard, so the Mac keyboard
will have to do for some.
Am personally waiting for the Orbit Reader 20 to become available. That does
have a keyboard.
Warm regards,
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On 14 Oct 2016, at 11:30 PM, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com>
wrote:
The keyboard commander he that you suggested is just one that I had made
when I gave you my voiceover preferences, but you can also press space with M
to mute and unmute speech
God bless.
Matt Dierckens,
Certified assistive technology specialist
Macintosh, iOS, and windows Trainor
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US phone: 573-401-1018
On Oct 14, 2016, at 17:20, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
For the speech when moving between items, could you mute VoiceOver while
reading to solve this issue by ensuring that keyboard commander is on with VO
shift K and pressing right option d?
Second, I can duplicate the issue of routing keys not working, both on a
BrailleNote Apex BT 32 and a Brailliant BI 32. I don’t know what’s going on,
but it’s really annoying. Anyone who can help with this would be awesome.
HTH,
Aleeha
On Oct 14, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Chris Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Guys,
I am currently using a braille display with my Mac Mini Late 2012 on El
Capitan.
I have a few questions, please.
First off, I am using contracted braille, and have disabled dot 7 8
braille. I’m noticing that when typing in a text field, be it in Text Edit,
Pages, Mail, wherever, it doesn’t matter at all, even though contracted braille
is enabled, I’m finding that the current word under the cursor is getting
expanded to computer braille. I’ve looked in the Voiceover utility under the
Braille category and automatic translation is unchecked. That’s the only thing
I can thing that would control this behavior. Regardless, that isn’t working.
Is there a way to turn that off, so it contracts regardless?
Second of all is a much more aggravating problem by far and away!
When I am reading a document in Safari, or say somewhere with an html
element, like a web area in ITunes, or whatever, point is, it’s a web html
content area, Each paragraph if a seperet item as far as Voiceover is
concerned. I’m using DOM order, and I don’t have any desire to change that.
This is absolutely fine, but the problem lies in panning with the display.
Regardless if I’m using my big Alva Satelite 584 Pro, which is my primary
display, or I’m using my Pacmate BX Omni 20 cell while on the go, I find that
as soon as I pan the display to the right and it leaves one item and moves to
the next, Voiceover starts audibly, with Alex, reading that next item. I know
it’s simply doing that because of the fact I transitioned from the previous
item to another item. The issue is, it really is very distracting when I’m in
the heat of reading a really good article. Then, I have to take my hands off
the display, hit the control key on the keyboard to shut up Alex, then go back
to the display, and continue. It really really breaks the flow of things. I
don’t mind Voiceover doing this normally, but there are times I’d rather be
able to pan, and even if I leave one item and move to another, I’d rather it
reflect that on the display, yes, but Voiceover not speak at all, if all I’m
doing is panning. It’s fine if one item takes more than one pan to complete,
so say on my 20 cell display, an item is over 20 characters. If I pan past the
20th cell to the 21st cell of the item, that is fine. It’s when I reach the end
of the item, then try moving to the next item there after that this problem is
occuring.
The final question I have is regarding my routing keys on my display.
I don’t understand why, but even in Sierra, this is an issue. For some b
izarre reason, my routing keys are not working at all on my Alva Satelite Pro
584. It’s the most weirdest thing! My PM20 display works fine. Another
friend of mine who also owns an Alva Satelite tried to reproduce the problem,
and he can as well. So clearly, something’s either broken or not set by
default. I didn’t think the routing keys had to be set.
So, say I’m editting a document, and I find a typo. I should be able to
press the router butting directly above the error to move my insertion point to
that character and fix the mistake. I can’t. When I try, it just dings at me.
This is both again on Sierra, as well as on El Capitan. It works, as I said
with my PM display, just not with the Alva. I’ve tried both the top, and the
bottom row of routing keys to no avale. I don’t think these need to be mapped,
as with the PM display plugged in, I went to the VO Utility/Braille, then on
the braille display tab, under Assign commands, I don’t see those keys
individually mapped. On the PM display, they just work. So I don’t think this
is a mapping issue.
When I go into the setup within the actual firmware itself of the Alva
display, the routing keys are not disabled. So, yeah… I’m totally stumped.
I should add that on the Windows side of things on my Win XP machine
with JAWS 15, the routing keys work perfectly, so it’s definitely not a
hardware malfuntion.
Any help with these things would be appreciated. I suppose I could call
Accessibility, but the last time I did and asked them about anything braille
related, they didn’t have the slightest clue, and normally haven’t other times
as well that I called about braille. I guess they just are not trained on
anything braille related, which is a bloody crying shame!
Anyway, can anyone help with these things?
Chris.
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