Hi, So, when you connect the Windows keyboard to the laptop, then press VO-k on the laptop, it should invoke Keyboard Practice and announce whatever key is pressed on either keyboard. Therefore, you should be able to press keys on the Windows keyboard, and they should be announced as well as any keys you might press on the laptop. Regarding whether a Windows keyboard works on a Mac or not, that is not the case. When you plug in any USB keyboard into the Mac other than an Apple one, a dialog should appear asking you to press the key just to the right of the left shift key, then the key just to the left of the right shift key. This is so that the Mac can identify the keyboard and map it accordingly. If this didn't happen, someone may have attempted to skip this step at some point. You should be able to go into System Prefs, under the Keyboard pane and make this happen again so that the keyboard is properly identified. Other than that, my instructions at the beginning of this note should help to, at least, determine what keys are what on that keyboard.
Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Apr 5, 2017, at 15:36, The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote: also vo k is working perfictly when I use her keyboard on her macbook air its the windows keyboard that we can't get to access the voice over features On 4/5/2017 2:25 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > If you have an Apple keyboard that you can connect at the same time, then you > should be able to turn on keyboard help with the VO-k command. Then start > pressing keys on the Windows keyboard and see what is announced. It's > perfectly fine to have two keyboards connected simultaneously. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 5, 2017, at 13:57, The wolf <hank.smith...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello I tried the suggestions given and am still unable to get to the minue > > I tried everything. > > what else should I check? > > clearly something isn't set up properly but have no idea what it could be. > > thanks > > Hank > > > On 4/5/2017 10:45 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I thought of that one, except if the regular VO-m isn't getting her up to >> the Menubar, then I question if VO-k will work given that the keys may be >> mixed up to begin with. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:33, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I am jumping in at this point. There is a very easy test that she can do >> to verify key placement. Do a VO-k and Voiceover will announce any valid key >> or key combinations. Press escape to get out of this mode. >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the >> mysteries of the world, all the challenges to >> our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 4/5/2017 10:29 AM, The wolf wrote: >>> yes I am sure that she is using the right keys >>> >>> I will be going over there some time today to try to fix this issue fore >>> her. >>> thanks >>> Hank >>> >>> On 4/5/2017 2:05 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>>> Are you sure she is using the correct keys? >>>> >>>> Remember that on a windows keyboard the alt and ctrl keys are not >>>> together, >>>> >>>> On the left hand side of the space bar you have from right to left, >>>> Ctrl, windows key or command key on a mac and then alt or option on >>>> a mac, >>>> >>>> Your friend needs to hold down ctrl and alt / option and hit M to >>>> bring up the menus, >>>> >>>> Give that a try, >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of The wolf >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 5 April 2017 5:57 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: windows keyboard not passing some of the commands to voice over? >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> I am trying to help one of my friends on her mac. >>>> she is using a windows bluetooth keyboard the command that allows you >>>> to get in to a minue isn't working what so ever so fore example when I >>>> open a app I can't get to the minues is there something that I need to >>>> change? >>>> we tried several keyboards external and bluetooth the command only >>>> works when using the macbook keyboard. >>>> surely there is a way to fix so folks can use non apple keyboards? >>>> if any one could help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated. >>>> thanks >>>> Hank >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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