What  about mesh routers like the erro which maybe about 300 for a pair of 3 
and would they do a better job then a regular router .  

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Subject: Re: I'm really growing to hate this years crop of laptops

The two have nothing to do with each other.

The included antennas with routers only provide on average 3DB of gain.  So 
whether she gets a new one or an old one it’s going to have the same issues if 
we’re dealing with a propagation or building materials problem.  What might be 
most helpful is if she or you posts what kind of router is in use now.  Sure it 
may be worth replacing but if the poster can save a few bucks that’s not a bad 
thing.  Also, you very well may replace the router with a new one and be in the 
same boat.  Stock antennas are pretty much garbage with some exceptions but the 
cheaper the router the less quality antennas are  attached. And $34 isn’t 
exactly a bunch of money, just about a 3rd the cost of the low end router you 
found for $100.  So what would I do, in a perfect world do both.  Then she’ll 
have a better router and the propagation issues will probably be solved at the 
same time.  Also, when you upgrade the router the next time as long as you use 
the same connectors you can reuse the antennas and not need to buy new.

Hope that helps.


> On Jun 8, 2017, at 3:20 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Scott, what would you rather do, go spend a bunch of money on antennas, that 
> are possibly going need to be replacing over and over again? Or would you 
> rather go buy you a new router that's a lot faster, and okay for itself and 2 
> to 3 months depending on how much it is. I'll just point this out, my brother 
> about a year ago, but our wireless router from Amazon for 100 bucks. Or at 
> least that's what he founded for.
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>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Or, you could spend a lot lot less money and upgrade the antennas if your 
>> router supports it.  I just bought 4 superpower supply antennas that provide 
>> 4 times the gain than the ones included.  Cost all of $34 US from amazon and 
>> they have the SMA connectors already as part of the units.
>> 
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Helga, I think we've talked about this before and I think we came to 
>>> the conclusion that you need to upgrade to a different wireless router. I 
>>> would be glad to discuss with your father and you about new routers if 
>>> necessary. It Is replacing the Internet router would probably be something 
>>> that your parents would have to do seems house as to where you live is 
>>> where your parents are. And they pay for your Internet. So it would have to 
>>> be something that they would have to do. Seems how you still live there. 
>>> Sorry for posting such a off-topic post, but I figured this would be 
>>> helpful information for the people that have already tried to possibly 
>>> assist her as I'm still catching up on messages.
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>>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:36 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> Hi all! How are you all? So by reading your message Scott, the  new Mac 
>>>> with touch bar is not great at all! Well guys, I was thinking in getting a 
>>>> new Macbook computer. I need a Mac computer with a great processor guys! 
>>>> My MacBook Air is great,but  for some reason I'm having issues with wiFi 
>>>> at my room, but when I'm out of my room not issues at all. And also my 
>>>> MacBook Air does not have insurance.   So I was thinking in getting a 
>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inches with 16 gigs ram. I heard for someone that the 2015 
>>>> MacBook Pro 13 inches has a processor of 2.7, and it differs with the 2016 
>>>> MacBook Pro  13 inches, that only has a 2.1 processor. Is this information 
>>>> true? My  MacBook Air 11 inches is a 2015 model. So I was planning to 
>>>> purchasing on December  a 2015 MacBook Pro 13 inches without touchbar 
>>>> since I'm not goign to be use to the touch bar at all! I use USV  a lot 
>>>> for accessing info for school,   and I'm not willing to buy adaptors for 
>>>> it. I look forward in hearing from you soon! Thanks so much and God bless!
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>>>> On Jun 3, 2017, at 12:01 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <sandi1...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If mind serves correctly you can get the new laps with out the 
>>>>> touchBar at all, how is the sound on the new generations?
>>>>> Usb situation sucks, but you can get adapters.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sandie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/3/17, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Wow, that's just screwy.  I was actually going to purchase a new 
>>>>>> 13-inch MBA this summer, but the cable situation really does sound like 
>>>>>> a show-stopper.
>>>>>> And given the big deal that Apple made about switching to a 
>>>>>> lightning port on the head phones, it was very stupid of them to 
>>>>>> create a situation where you can't use their headphones on their 
>>>>>> own computers.  This is really too bad.  I won't try a Chromebook, so it 
>>>>>> may be back to Windows for me.
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Scott Granados 
>>>>>>> <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I hate to say this about apple but I’m not going to give someone 
>>>>>>> a pass where it’s not deserved either.  I’ve been using a 2016 
>>>>>>> latest model laptop with the touch bar and finger print censor 
>>>>>>> now for several weeks and I need to say, I hate it.  That’s 
>>>>>>> something I thought I wouldn’t say but the fact is I do.  Reasons are 
>>>>>>> as follows.
>>>>>>> The touch bar triggers when your fingers are on the row of 
>>>>>>> physical keys below.  The finger print censor also triggers Siri 
>>>>>>> and also fires when you touch the keys below.  You also end up 
>>>>>>> starting Siri when you want to start or stop voice over.
>>>>>>> The light bar doesn’t work the same in virtual machines as it 
>>>>>>> does on the Mac proper.
>>>>>>> The ports are a joke.  Everything is USB-C which renders all my 
>>>>>>> previous adapters and connectors useless.  The power cable now 
>>>>>>> uses USB-C instead of mag safe (which I like better).  The 
>>>>>>> lightning ports on all the phones and other devices feel just 
>>>>>>> like USB-C with a slight size difference so I’m for ever using 
>>>>>>> the wrong cable on the wrong port.  All your included cables 
>>>>>>> with your devices are USB 3.0 the older standard and don’t fit in the 
>>>>>>> USB-C port, you can get adapters but they aren’t included.
>>>>>>> While I like the lightning port for headphones now instead of 
>>>>>>> 3.5 MM jack, the new laptop doesn’t include a lightning port so 
>>>>>>> you have to use different headphones.
>>>>>>> The things I do like are the battery life is very good, it’s 
>>>>>>> very fast and the new processors do very well running virtual 
>>>>>>> images.  But it’s just not fun to use.  My mid 2015 model is so 
>>>>>>> much more enjoyable to type on and all my cables work.  Apple 
>>>>>>> your laptops this year are a miss in my opinion.  I won’t go 
>>>>>>> back to windows but I bet I could be convinced to try chrome books or 
>>>>>>> something else.
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