Mike that's facts but most people will most likely give them a pass or ignore the foolary because it's apple.
On 12/24/17, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: > I can't speak for anyone else, but what bothers me the most about the whole > thing isn't that Apple did the slow down, but that they were deceptive about > it, at first denying it, and then finally admiting that it was true, > probably because the evidence was overwhelming. When the update was > installed that did the slow down, they should have indicated it in the > release notes, sure, some people would have still had a problem with it, but > instead Apple basically tried to cover it up. > >> On Dec 24, 2017, at 2:14 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> Its easy to be critical of Apple if one does not have credentials or >> business experience. When our iPhones or Macs works wonderfully, we don't >> praise them, But when there is the slightest hint of impropriety, we >> demonize Apple >> >> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . >> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, >> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off >> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact >> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 12/23/2017 11:24 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote: >>> Yeah lying doesn't do anyone any favours, >>> If they had have been honest from the start people might feel >>> differently. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor >>> Sent: Saturday, 23 December 2017 2:46 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks fraud lawsuit - CNET >>> Hello Tim, >>> I tend to agree with you. >>> However, as I stated on the V iPhone list, I think the issue is that >>> Apple has been telling people that such a practice did not occur. >>> It's the dishonesty that people take issue with. >>> Just be upfront with everyone, and most will appreciate the honesty. >>> Case in point, there is a software bug with the iPhone 8 series that, at >>> present, only occurs on the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus. It is not a significant >>> bug, but, a bug, nevertheless. >>> When I and many others asked Apple about this bug, they denied it even >>> though, later, they acknowledged it. >>> The problem is that they knew of the bug at the time when we all reported >>> it. >>> I will not go into details of the bug, at this time but it's difficult >>> not to get angry at a company that deliberately lies to its customers. >>> Just some food for thought, as it were. >>> Mark >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn >>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 10:48 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks fraud lawsuit - CNET >>> Hi, >>> Thanks for this Mark. Just my opinion, of course, but my understanding >>> is that the slow-down would not be noticed by most during normal use. >>> Some people like to create law suits for just about anything, and, again, >>> in my opinion, this is just a waste of judicial time. >>> Later... >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> On Dec 22, 2017, at 11:41, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>> Apple's iPhone slowdown sparks lawsuit alleging fraud The plaintiffs >>> contend that an Apple software tweak that slows down older iPhones was a >>> ploy to spur upgrades to pricier models. >>> December 22, 2017 8:25 AM PST >>> Apple disclosed Wednesday that it updated the software of older iPhones >>> to slow them down when the battery can't keep up with the phone's >>> computer. >>> Sarah Tew/CNET >>> Apple's controversial iPhone slowdown is drawing legal fire. >>> A pending lawsuit against Apple says a software tweak that slows some >>> older iPhones to counteract problems found in aging batteries is a fraud >>> designed to spur upgrades to the latest model. >>> Apple didn't immediately respond to a message seeking comment. >>> After years of complaints from consumers that their iPhones seem slower >>> once a new model is released, Apple on Wednesday disclosed it was indeed >>> slowing the performance of some older iPhones under particular >>> circumstances. When batteries age, become very cold or operate at low >>> power, their currents can spike when the phone's computer tries to hit >>> higher speeds. Rather than having a phone shut down automatically to >>> protect itself, Apple said that last year it tweaked its iOS software for >>> some older iPhones so they slow down instead. >>> The lawsuit, filed Thursday in the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern >>> division, represents five people who claim the company purposefully >>> updated the phones' operating system to dampen its performance as a way >>> of "fraudulently forcing iPhone owners to purchase the latest model from >>> Apple," according to a release from attorney James Vlahakis of Lombard, >>> Illinois-based Atlas Consumer Law. >>> The plaintiffs allege this fraud applies to updates to the iPhone 5, >>> iPhone >>> 6 and certain iPhone 7 models. >>> Apple's disclosure this week didn't include the iPhone 5. The company >>> said the software update applied to the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, 6S and 6S >>> Plus and SE, and earlier this year was extended to the iPhone 7 and 7 >>> Plus. It will be applied to other Apple devices in the future, the >>> company said. >>> In the past, Apple has routinely said it doesn't purposely slow phones to >>> encourage customers to replace them. 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