Actually, I just looked at my settings
ET what is your mouse settings on VO right now?
and mouse was set to ignore VO Cursor… So maybe the options are a bit messed
up.
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Dec 31, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Actually I wish this did work in safari, some sites, when the mouse moves
> over a link will expand the link and show you the other links within the
> menu, granted, this is not very good web design, but many sites do it, I'm
> wondering if I should delete my voiceover preferences and start witht eh
> defaults and see if I can find what setting is preventing this from working.
>
>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I am getting similar results to ET, The mouse does not seem to closely match
>> the specific word in Pages, but it certainly is not stuck on the Apple logo.
>> When in the Finder VO-F5 reports the previous application unless I put the
>> finder window in full screen mode. I thought that VO-tilde reported window
>> size along with being able to resize I was wondering if my windows had
>> shrunk to a size not visible to the mouse but I was unable to determine the
>> size just to move the window to fill a half screen.
>>
>> And of course in Safari mouse follows VoiceOver cursor still causes me
>> issues in FaceBook and LinkedIn as it causes articles and other items to be
>> expanded as the VO cursor moves over them changing the Dom and confusing the
>> cursor to get stuck or repeat items that hs already ben read before.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 4:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes I am running High Sierra. This did not act consistently in Finder but
>>> I tried it in other areas including the menu and menu extras and VO-f5 was
>>> spot on.
>>>
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>> On 12/30/2017 12:20 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>> Are you using high sierra? If you have the mouse set to follow the
>>>> voiceover cursor and you navigate to something, then press vo+F5 to hear
>>>> the item under the mouse, does it indicate that the mouse is on the same
>>>> item as the voiceover cursor? For me, unless I specifically move the mouse
>>>> to the voiceover cursor, it always says that the apple menu is under the
>>>> mouse.
>>>>> On Dec 29, 2017, at 4:10 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mouse follows Voiceover seems to work fine here.
>>>>>
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/29/2017 1:45 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>>>> I find that high sierra works quite well. The only bug I know of, at
>>>>>> least relating to voice over is that even when you set the mouse to
>>>>>> follow the voiceover cursor, it does not work.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> Simon, if High Sierra is so buggy, why are you silent on the beta
>>>>>>> group? Its so quiet there I have to think that Apple's developments are
>>>>>>> bug free. Not the case? People complain but don't want to get their
>>>>>>> hands dirty.
>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>> On 12/29/2017 12:01 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've got no problem saying I think apple do a lot wrong,
>>>>>>>> Mac OS high sierra,
>>>>>>>> Still very buggy,
>>>>>>>> Removing the airport devices from their line,
>>>>>>>> The last three iPhones, wouldn't say their changing much.
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of lenron brown
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 29 December 2017 8:50 PM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
>>>>>>>> Controversy | Time
>>>>>>>> Exactly they totally fail and people that think apple can do no wrong
>>>>>>>> will say other wise. This should be a toggle anyways. The only good
>>>>>>>> thing to come out of this is that they are now going to let you know
>>>>>>>> when your device is going to be effected by the battery and
>>>>>>>> replacements will only cost 30 bucks. This proves to me that battery
>>>>>>>> replacements could have been 30 bucks in the first place. I mean look
>>>>>>>> at all the money you spend on an IPhone. I mean you can also go
>>>>>>>> somewhere that is not apple and get the battery swapped for 50 bucks.
>>>>>>>> On 12/29/17, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 'm to polite to say that on the list!
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 29 December 2017 3:27 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
>>>>>>>>> Controversy | Time
>>>>>>>>> Uh huh and what am I saying right now?
>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/2017 6:25 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I knew you would say that!
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 29 December 2017 3:20 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
>>>>>>>>>> Controversy | Time
>>>>>>>>>> Its called hindsight, Simon, something we all possess in
>>>>>>>>>> abundance.
>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>>>>>>>>>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>>>>>>>>>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>>>>>>>>>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/28/2017 6:13 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again Mark this article is very interesting,
>>>>>>>>>>> And I must say what I think they should have done in the first
>>>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, 29 December 2017 1:21 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy
>>>>>>>>>>> | Time
>>>>>>>>>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down
>>>>>>>>>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls
>>>>>>>>>>> a "misunderstanding"
>>>>>>>>>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older
>>>>>>>>>>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>>>>>>>>>>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We
>>>>>>>>>>> apologize," the company said in a letter published on its website
>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>>>>>>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones
>>>>>>>>>>> exploded last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship
>>>>>>>>>>> between iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later
>>>>>>>>>>> confirmed that it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to
>>>>>>>>>>> prevent sudden shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over
>>>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries
>>>>>>>>>>> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to
>>>>>>>>>>> be able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the
>>>>>>>>>>> company will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone with an iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That
>>>>>>>>>>> means instead of dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old
>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone work like new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018
>>>>>>>>>>> that will include new information about their battery's health,
>>>>>>>>>>> letting people see when the phone's battery may be affecting its
>>>>>>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>>>>>> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> users believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to
>>>>>>>>>>> get customers to buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is
>>>>>>>>>>> meant to prolong the life of older batteries. "This feature's only
>>>>>>>>>>> intent is to prevent unexpected shutdowns so that the iPhone can
>>>>>>>>>>> still be used," Apple says in a new support article.
>>>>>>>>>>> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The
>>>>>>>>>>> company also promised to keep working on how it manages performance
>>>>>>>>>>> to avoid shutdowns, and said it hopes to earn customers' trust
>>>>>>>>>>> again next year.
>>>>>>>>>>> Original Article at:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://time.com/5081679/apple-apologizes-iphone-slowdown-controversy
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> b
>>>>>>>>>>> attery
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