Becky, Write me at kriegle...@gmail.com and I may be able to help you with your question.
Les Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rebecca Sabo Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 6:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Braille Displays Hi all Is their a cheaper braille display to buy anywhere ? Becky > On Apr 29, 2018, at 10:27 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Donna, > This is actually a concern I have. It goes back to the time when Freedom > Scientific came to life and took over what, 3 companies, including Blazie? > But we do not have many choices in the AT field. Yes I will certainly share > my experiences. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 4/29/2018 9:10 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> ET, >> I'll be curious about your impressions of the Focus 5. VFO is what used to >> be Freedom Scientific. Time was when I was a huge fan of theirs, but that >> hasn't been the case for over ten years now. If you check out the new >> Focus, please do share your impressions with the list. >> Cheers, >> Donna >>> On Apr 29, 2018, at 11:08 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Mary, >>> I suppose I am out of touch with the AT business so am not up to snuff on >>> who markets what. VFO for example is new to me. >>> >>> I briefly looked at a display last week that has a touch screen. I don't >>> remember what brand that one is but I passed on it. But who knows, maybe I >>> will keep an open mind. The Focus 5th is now of interest, got the user >>> guide so will look at it. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 4/28/2018 6:16 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> Baum USA was the distributor for the United States. So if you live in the >>>> US, you are out of luck unless you’re willing to buy a used display from >>>> someone. I assume the same might be true for Europe, but I wouldn’t want >>>> to say that for sure. This whole thing is sad, but it really depends on >>>> whether somebody is willing to pump more money into that company in order >>>> to make it viable. If I were buying up display now, I would not buy a baum >>>> display, no matter how good they are. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 5:59 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com >>>> <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> ET, >>>>> >>>>> So far as I know. I bought directly from them. For best info on this I >>>>> suggest you email David Bradburn. The only email I have for him is >>>>> dbradb...@baumusa.com <mailto:dbradb...@baumusa.com>. Alternatively, you >>>>> could reach out to him on the VU list. I believe he still reads it. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 4:40 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna, >>>>>> You mean, Baum USA was the only vendor? That changes things. That is >>>>>> indeed unfortunate. I will look into the new Focus and learn more. >>>>>> Appreciate your input. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/28/2018 10:50 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> ET, >>>>>>> You cannot purchase them new. You would have to find someone who wants >>>>>>> to sell theres, which is why I suggested the VU list. >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 11:42 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mary and Jason, >>>>>>>> Good question on availability. I will need to look into that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The new Focus sounds interesting. In general how well has the Focus >>>>>>>> line held up? That auto scroll feature is intriguing. I may see if I >>>>>>>> can get one to look at. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/28/2018 9:35 AM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>>>> Can you even still purchase a v u? I didn’t think baum USA, which is >>>>>>>>> now out of business, even had any stock left. It’s a great display >>>>>>>>> with a big learning curve. I would really seriously look at the new >>>>>>>>> generation focus if I were you. It has multiple devices capability >>>>>>>>> and will have some notetaking capability later this year. A friend of >>>>>>>>> mine just got one and says it’s very well-built, and he really likes >>>>>>>>> it a lot. >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2018, at 9:31 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Donna, >>>>>>>>>> Good feedback. When I first got the Edge I was impressed with it. >>>>>>>>>> But I think HIMS moves on rather too quickly and legacy products >>>>>>>>>> pile up. I think the last update is from 2015. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no end to the learning curve so since you anticipated my >>>>>>>>>> desire to join a VU list, I just joined! Thanks for that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do like the multiple Bluetooth concept. I found the user guide >>>>>>>>>> too so will go through it over the next week or so. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps someone will take over Baum. If that happens, lets hope it >>>>>>>>>> does not decrease in quality of product and support. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/28/2018 5:59 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hey ET, >>>>>>>>>>> I currently own both those displays--I replaced my Edge with the >>>>>>>>>>> VU, and was never able to sell my Edge. >>>>>>>>>>> This is a really hard question to answer. Erik is right, the >>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy issue with Baum has real nightmare potential. Currently >>>>>>>>>>> David Bradburn is providing some repair support, but he's doing it >>>>>>>>>>> as a side-gig. The only tech support is the VU list. It's a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of knowledgeable and very helpful folks, but that's not the same as >>>>>>>>>>> getting tech support from the company. >>>>>>>>>>> That said, the VU is the best display I've ever owned. The >>>>>>>>>>> Braille Edge frankly doesn't even come close. I'm not sure what >>>>>>>>>>> happened with the Edge. It has lots of coolness potential, but >>>>>>>>>>> it's like HIMS started to develop it and then just stopped. It >>>>>>>>>>> has all these function keys, for example, but most of them don't do >>>>>>>>>>> much. The apps are also very limited. It has a sort of minimal >>>>>>>>>>> word processor and file manager, and a calculator, but it's all >>>>>>>>>>> kind of like something you'd find on an old flip phone. >>>>>>>>>>> The VU has a nice word processor with separate file manager, a PDF >>>>>>>>>>> reader, and an Excel spreadsheet viewer. And as Erik pointed out, >>>>>>>>>>> can connect to multiple bluetooth devices. >>>>>>>>>>> The VU also has by far the nicer form factor. It's funny, when the >>>>>>>>>>> Edge came out it felt relatively small, but it is very heavy and >>>>>>>>>>> blocky compared to the VU, which is small, and light, and sleek. >>>>>>>>>>> The VU has a significantly higher learning curve, but I wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>> imagine that that would be an issue for you. >>>>>>>>>>> One last thing to think about is that with the Edge, you transfer >>>>>>>>>>> files onto it with an SD card, which is pretty dated. With the VU, >>>>>>>>>>> you can transfer either via USB drive or you can connect it >>>>>>>>>>> directly to a PC, and it functions as a stand-alone drive. >>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, that feature does not work on the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>> So, that's the sum of my wisdom on the subject. The VU is by far >>>>>>>>>>> the better display, but it depends on whether you want to get >>>>>>>>>>> involved with the Baum situation. Were it me, I'd probably still >>>>>>>>>>> go for the VU, it's just that much better. But I can certainly >>>>>>>>>>> understand someone not wanting to take that risk. If you want to >>>>>>>>>>> try and track down a VU, I'd suggest joining the list and asking >>>>>>>>>>> there. The URL to subscribe is: varioultra-reque...@freelists.org >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:varioultra-reque...@freelists.org>. Put Subscribe in the >>>>>>>>>>> subject line. If you have any other questions, I'm happy to try >>>>>>>>>>> and answer them. >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2018, at 5:41 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have the opportunity to replace my Braille Edge. Donna, I hope >>>>>>>>>>>> you will chime in. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can choose just about anything but will limit my choice to >>>>>>>>>>>> either another Edge or the Vario Ultra 40. Given that Baum is in >>>>>>>>>>>> bankruptcy, the question is then what about tech support. Is the >>>>>>>>>>>> Vario Ultra still a good bet? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>>>>>>> in the past. 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