Mary, What I was pointing out is that jumping from heading to heading may not be as simple as just pressing h, but the functionality still exists, even if you have to hold some additional keys down. In the end you use what works best for you. YOu say browsing using IE on windows is more efficient for you and that is great, but for me I have found ways of becoming very efficient using VO and Safari. In fact I prefer in nearly all cases now, using VO and Safari. There was a time I may have agreed with you, but as I really became comfortable with VO and the entire Mac experience, I really have no use for windows or windows-based screen readers. Well the only reason I use windows personally is for some courses I am taking that use news groups and so far outlook express is the only choice I have found thus far and since most the materials have to be produced using Word, I have to drag that out. Otherwise, I honestly do find the Mac works well for me. Again, you use what works for you because being efficient and productive is most important. On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Scott, > I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the differences > between moving around on a page among elements with Window Eyes or Jaws and > Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference between pressing h > by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to h to move among > headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? You must have amazing > hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing for decades. It gets even > more interesting when you add the shift into the mix to go up the page in > reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a long shot. > Are there other benefits, such as not having to go in and out of forms mode? > for sure. The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of > the main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad > commander, although learning it was not as intuitive as learning mnemonics on > the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient for me as having > that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move among various web > elements at will. Another thing I hope can be implemented in the future is a > means of letting focus return to where it was when you return back to a > previously visited page. That's a big time saver with the Windows screen > readers, although it doesn't always work. Its nonexistent with vo. I like > the fact that pages seem to load faster with Safari than they do with IE and > a screen reader. Over all, for me, the Windows experience is still more > efficient. But there are pluses with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep > improving. Group mode is something I have tried and dropped. I just never > found a page where it seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really > care how the page is laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just > doesn't seem very important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. > Maybe I don't go to the right sites where group mode's benefits are displayed > to best advantage. > > Mary > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
