Thank you, Tim. Much appreciated. Andrew > On 10 Apr 2020, at 21:34, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > > Yes, you certainly have occasion to be frustrated. One thing to note, Apple > Accessibility is simply a support line. They are not the developers, nor do > they have a direct line to the developer team. They can, though, escalate > items easier than you or I, so I do understand your frustration. I will pass > your concern on to an Apple SE or two to see if they can direct it to the > relevant team members to see if it can be addressed sooner rather than later. > Regarding how easy the problem is to fix, I can't be sure other than to say > that it's often easier from the outside than it is from the inside when it > comes to lengthy and complicated code. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 04:28, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > I think frustration sometimes makes us speak to generally. My ongoing > complaint about Apple’s accessibility indifference to an issue I’ve been > reporting for over 4 years is their ignoring thus far the Greek voice bug > where the Greek voice, be it native to Apple or infovox ivox instead of > reading text properly, spells it out, which renders it useless. I think 4 > years is a very long time and I am having to keep one of my macs on Sierra in > order to be able to work and enjoy the greek speech. This is really > beginning to irritate me. I have been beta testing as well and have been > reporting this problem for over 4 years as well ever since High Sierra. I > have recently been on the phone to Apple Accessibility begging them to fix > this. I don’t think it is very hard to correct this problem and yet they > haven’t. The latest Catalina beta has retained this bug too. Every time > there’s a new release of beta for testing, I send a bug report and it’s > beginning to feel like a joke. I don’t quite know what to do because one day > I will have to give up my Sierra running laptop either because it fails or > when the OS becomes unsupported. So hence I’m playing around with Windows > again very very reluctantly. > > Best wishes > > Andrew >> On 9 Apr 2020, at 21:31, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> What specifically has given you the impression that Apple is not focusing on >> accessibility? >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Apr 9, 2020, at 14:29, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I’m getting fed up with Apple non-responsiveness to accessibility issues & >> have begun the process of going back to Windows. & Jaws. I’m so >> disappointed. >>> On 8 Apr 2020, at 08:16, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se >>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> I just updated to iOS 13.4.1. >>> SO far i haven’t notice any bugfixes for Vo. >>> /A >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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