Yes, this is correct. Also, one doesn’t need to concern themselves with the 
various bars and such. It’s like any Windows mail client. You only need to 
navigate the mailboxes and the message table, and this is done with simple 
keyboard commands. Again, like any screen reader, if you know the shortcuts, 
you can avoid getting lost or dealing with areas of the screen that are not 
important.


Take Care

John D. Panarese
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Mac for the Blind
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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I use command plus option plus up or down arrows to move to the top or bottom 
> of the list of messages. I find that option plus the arrow keys does not 
> work. 
> 
> Greg Wocher
> 
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com 
>> <mailto:numb...@noisynotes.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not a major Mac user. In particular, I don't use Safari or Mail. I 
>> prefer the user experience provided by other operating systems and 
>> screenreaders. However, last night I had to work on someone's Mac that was 
>> having email problems. I ironed out the problems, but along the way, 
>> discovered that Mail was not set up optimally for use with VoiceOver. 
>> Specifically, I couldn't use Option-Up/Down Arrow keys to get to the top and 
>> bottom of the messages table, and there are a lot of sidebars and other 
>> views that are open which to me seem needless and cluttery. I look at this 
>> AppleVis article <https://www.applevis.com/guides/macs-mail-app-explained> 
>> which was helpful in certain ways but did not address any of the things 
>> mentioned above despite it having been written in 2014 and updated just last 
>> week. Can someone amplify or further explain some of these things? In 
>> particular, moving through the messages table a page at a time or getting to 
>> the top/bottom of said table would be quite helpful, as one such table in 
>> one mailbox folder has over 2000 messages in it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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