I'm also interested in eliminating screen clutter for a partially
sighted user, but yes, the shortcut keys are definitely the way to go
for Mac Mail. For instance, while we don't care whether bookmarks are
shown or not in Safari, they do take up some screen real-estate for
sighted users. Eliminating that panel improved a partially-sighted
user's use of Safari greatly when I explained how to get rid of that
ever-growing list and give them back some screen space. Same with Mail.
If I knew what sidebars and such could be closed for a partially sighted
user to get more on their screen, I'd recommend it.
On 1/12/2021 1:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:
Yes, this is correct. Also, one doesn’t need to concern themselves
with the various bars and such. It’s like any Windows mail client. You
only need to navigate the mailboxes and the message table, and this is
done with simple keyboard commands. Again, like any screen reader, if
you know the shortcuts, you can avoid getting lost or dealing with
areas of the screen that are not important.
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On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com
<mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I use command plus option plus up or down arrows to move to the top
or bottom of the list of messages. I find that option plus the arrow
keys does not work.
Greg Wocher
On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Steve Matzura <numb...@noisynotes.com
<mailto:numb...@noisynotes.com>> wrote:
I'm not a major Mac user. In particular, I don't use Safari or Mail.
I prefer the user experience provided by other operating systems and
screenreaders. However, last night I had to work on someone's Mac
that was having email problems. I ironed out the problems, but along
the way, discovered that Mail was not set up optimally for use with
VoiceOver. Specifically, I couldn't use Option-Up/Down Arrow keys to
get to the top and bottom of the messages table, and there are a lot
of sidebars and other views that are open which to me seem needless
and cluttery. I look at this AppleVis article
<https://www.applevis.com/guides/macs-mail-app-explained> which was
helpful in certain ways but did not address any of the things
mentioned above despite it having been written in 2014 and updated
just last week. Can someone amplify or further explain some of these
things? In particular, moving through the messages table a page at a
time or getting to the top/bottom of said table would be quite
helpful, as one such table in one mailbox folder has over 2000
messages in it.
Thanks in advance.
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