Wow! Donna! -For what it’s worth, I cannot believe that they even brought up 
the idea of charging you, considering the situation!

this is so far over the top in my opinion, that it’s just beyond words. Was 
this the Apple Store or a third-party dealer, if you don’t mind my asking? My 
apologies if I’ve missed this in your message.

I wish I had a solution for you or anything that I could think of to help.

I also have an M1 MBA and while my time moving into it wasn’t necessarily super 
smooth, it has not been nearly what you’re seeing. Personally, I also thought 
of abandoning the M1 and going back to an Intel machine until the kinks with 
Big Sur were worked out. I’m very sorry to hear about your experience, and to 
whatever vendor thought it was a good idea to charge you, (be it Apple or 
otherwise) then shame on them! This is absolutely disgraceful behavior for any 
vendor.

If I can think of anything that might help I’ll certainly post.

Best of luck to you Donna.

Cheers!

Cara


> On May 5, 2021, at 1:19 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Because my computer wouldn't accept the invitation to screen share. and when 
> I went to the service dealer, they would have done it, but they were going to 
> charge me.  I'll be ***ed, if I am going to spend money fixing a computer 
> that I just unboxed yesterday.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On May 5, 2021, at 2:17 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> I wonder why the staff at Apple couldn't just do a clean install of Big Sir 
>> for you.
>> Hope all goes well with the update.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:16 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>> 
>> Yes, if I could get the computer to speak.  But so far, neither I nor 
>> several others have been able to make that happen.  There should not be 
>> compatibility issues, since my MBP is also running Big Sur and has been kept 
>> updated.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2021, at 2:10 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> I should have clarified.
>>> Can you move all your documents to the cloud and use that instead of Time 
>>> Machine?
>>> Maybe something in the previous backup isn't compatible between the two 
>>> computers?
>>> I'm new to the Mac, but I remember a time when there were compatibility 
>>> issues between JAWS and older versions of Windows. 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:08 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>> 
>>> Not quite sure what you're asking.  A lot of my documents are in the cloud, 
>>> but not all.  If you're asking about signing out of iCloud, my husband will 
>>> have to help me do that, since I have no access to the computer without 
>>> speech.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2021, at 2:01 PM, skipper8...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Can you get your data from the cloud? 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 2:59 PM
>>>> To: via MacVisionaries <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I 
>>>> would share my experience.
>>>> 
>>>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache 
>>>> since.  When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine.  But after I 
>>>> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent.
>>>> 
>>>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on 
>>>> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the 
>>>> call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she 
>>>> could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to 
>>>> select and activate items on the trackpad.  to say the least, the 
>>>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and 
>>>> hung up.  My husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot 
>>>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance.  We were 
>>>> not successful.
>>>> 
>>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement.  I spent another 
>>>> half hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of 
>>>> which, he directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple 
>>>> Service dealer.  My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do 
>>>> that.  I just got back from there.  They weren't able to fix it either.  
>>>> He said that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has 
>>>> recommended that I install the latest Big Sur update.  I'm downloading it 
>>>> now.  If that doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to 
>>>> using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which works just fine.
>>>> 
>>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>>> --- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/69083F3D-5AB8-4218-A407-EBCF274545B0%40me.com.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>> 
>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>>> --- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/057701d741e1%241fc54cf0%245f4fe6d0%24%40gmail.com.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/49FA57EE-4740-42DD-ABF1-87BDDD88C057%40me.com.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>> Visionaries list.
>>> 
>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners 
>>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>> 
>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at: 
>>>  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>> 
>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>>> --- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/057d01d741e2%245b6e0430%24124a0c90%24%40gmail.com.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F2744304-9F4D-4A1F-985E-EC827FC3CEAD%40me.com.
>> 
>> -- 
>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>> Visionaries list.
>> 
>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>> 
>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>> 
>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
>> --- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "MacVisionaries" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/058101d741e3%24549fa810%24fddef830%24%40gmail.com.
> 
> -- 
> The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
> list.
> 
> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
> 
> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
> 
> The archives for this list can be searched at:
> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
> --- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "MacVisionaries" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A8DF599C-468E-497E-92E9-C609E52856EE%40me.com.

-- 
The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries 
list.

If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you 
feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or 
moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.

Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark at:  
mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
caraqu...@caraquinn.com

The archives for this list can be searched at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/
--- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"MacVisionaries" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1C0551BC-3806-4184-8667-3EB5A08582AD%40gmail.com.

Reply via email to