Recent versions have improved somewhat in their accessibility. Make sure you’re using the latest Office 365, monthly channel, for the best that Microsoft Word for Mac currently offers to the VoiceOver user. Old versions are definitely problematic.
> On 22 Jun, 2022, at 16:57, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I agree, Tim. It works well. I have been made to work with sophisticated > documents and it is surprisingly accessible. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > >> On Jun 22, 2022, at 4:03 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Works fine for me. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 1:00 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net >>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry Tim, Word for Mac works terrible. Reading a simple text might work >>> but in the moment a document is more suffisticated or very long Word >>> doesn’t work very well. >>> In my opinion Outlook is the only app which works quite well using >>> VoiceOver. >>> Jürgen >>>> Am 22.06.2022 um 21:51 schrieb 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I think that you might be running on old information about Microsoft Word. >>>> It is very accessible on the Mac now. But, if you do want to move docs >>>> back-and-forth between word, and an app, Pages is very accessible, and can >>>> import and export to Microsoft Word easily. >>>> >>>> Later… >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Andrew Leland <alel...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:alel...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Here’s another question for the group: >>>>> >>>>> One of the main reasons I’m considering abandoning MacOS for Windows is >>>>> that I have to send and receive MS Word docs, often with track changes >>>>> and comments. I primarily work in Scrivener and export to Word, but I >>>>> can’t give up word entirely because I need to be able to check the >>>>> formatting of the exported docx, and process tracked changes and comments >>>>> on files I’m receiving. Does anyone know of a way to bring a .docx with >>>>> track changes and comments into a more accessible program than Word on >>>>> the Mac? Like maybe Apple Pages? Trying to think of a way that I don’t >>>>> have to switch to Windows, though I’m sort of resigned to that fate >>>>> considering everything I know about MS Word for MacOS... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and high fives all around, >>>>> Andrew >>>>>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 2:17 PM, Jürgen Fleger <mailinglis...@fleger.net >>>>>> <mailto:mailinglis...@fleger.net>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andrew, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m sorry to hear you are getting blind. Ask as much as you want here in >>>>>> this list. A lot of great experts share their knowledge. You could also >>>>>> have a look on applevis.com <http://applevis.com/>. Very rich. >>>>>> >>>>>> Press CMD + Option + v instead of just CMD + v to move an element in the >>>>>> Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> Scrivener for Mac is also a great tool which is quite accessible to >>>>>> VoiceOver. Unfortunately Word isn’t as accessible as it could be. In >>>>>> this point I’m very disappointed from Microsoft. They could really do >>>>>> better. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best >>>>>> Jürgen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 22.06.2022 um 20:07 schrieb Andrew Leland <alel...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <mailto:alel...@gmail.com>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm a lifelong sighted Mac user currently in the process of becoming a >>>>>>> blind Mac user. I've also decided to learn JAWS (even though I would've >>>>>>> never dream of switching to Windows otherwise) since I can't avoid MS >>>>>>> Word in my work and I've been gobsmacked by how frequently Word for Mac >>>>>>> stops working compared to Scrivener, which is my main workhorse word >>>>>>> processor. (also finding some of the JAWS navigation, especially on the >>>>>>> web, more reliable and intuitive than VoiceOver for MacOS). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway none of this has anything to do with my question for you, which >>>>>>> is as follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is there any way to move items in the finder without just copying, >>>>>>> deleting, then pasting in the new location? I know in Windows you can >>>>>>> "cut" a file and then "paste" it elsewhere, removing this middle step >>>>>>> of having to then go back and delete the file... I have half-heartedly >>>>>>> tried reading the apple documentation about dragging and dropping with >>>>>>> VoiceOver but I haven't had the courage to try. is it more efficient >>>>>>> than copy file, paste file, delete file in the finder? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, and thanks for including me in this group! >>>>>>> Andrew Leland >>>>>>> alel...@gmail.com <mailto:alel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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