may I ask how much this data connects with Catalina?
Finding it personally frustrating, and would welcome a solid outside of the system itself resource. Or better still an in person teacher whom I am happy to pay.



On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Janet Ingber wrote:

Hi Devin,

My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. 
However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the Big 
Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s the link:
https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_search=1

Hope this helps.
Janet

On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and 
VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else?

Devin Prater

On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer <marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> wrote:

thanks so very much to all who replied.
you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better than the 
sense of dread I was developing.
you all have been most helpful.
I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in 
posting them.
Best to all, Marlene.


On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page 
(summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands):
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236

On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac user 
for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white polycarbon plastic 
MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC the same day so I was forced 
to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to learn the OS and I've been loving the 
Mac ever since. Someone said on this list a while ago that if you really want 
to learn how to use this platform, you should forget everything you know about 
Windows and to not use your PC as a crutch when you're frustrated with the Mac. 
They were great words and I took them to heart. I think that's why I'm very 
good at it. Also, along with this list, I have a Whatsapp group called Mac 
Users and Newbies which is also a great group. If you'd like to be added and if 
you're on a mobile phone such as iOS or Android, you can send me your contact 
information and I'll put you in the group. Enjoy the Mac.

Shawn

On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

That’s probably true.
Cheers,
Donna


On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:



On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me.  I think it’s 
because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t part of Windows, such 
as interacting, and quicknav.  Also, in my case, I’d been a PC user for about 
twenty years.  So there were a lot of things that were basically hard-wired, 
and I had to relearn them.
For me, it started with Apple II in the 1980s, then MS-DOS in the early 90s, 
then UNIX in the 90s (a Sun clone), followed by Linux - both at the text 
console and later the graphical user interface as well. This was followed by 
Android, iOS, and then Mac OS. I didn’t have any trouble learning Mac OS, as I 
recall.
After that came Windows, learned “mostly on the job” in a work environment, and 
some opportunities to experiment a little with Chrome OS (but not to learn it 
properly).
My only conclusion is that having learned to use several different systems 
already makes the next one easier to learn.

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