Hi Karen, If Herbie can give you materials that would be great. Big Sur is the operating system after Catalina. Here’s the AccessWorld article about it: https://www.afb.org/aw/20/12/16850
If you still want a teacher, email me off list. HTH, Janet > On Dec 8, 2022, at 5:01 PM, Fazil M. <mfa...@outlook.com> wrote: > > MayI have that too, please? > Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> On > Behalf Of Herbie Allen > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2022 1:46 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New to MacBook. Seeking advice on strategies for developing > competence. > > I might be able to give you some old training material regarding Catalina, > but most things are the same. Messages and calendar are vastly different, and > mail has some minor changes and you may have a slightly different look with > System preferences. > >> On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:36, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: >> >> may I ask how much this data connects with Catalina? >> Finding it personally frustrating, and would welcome a solid outside of the >> system itself resource. Or better still an in person teacher whom I am >> happy to pay. >> >> >> >> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Janet Ingber wrote: >> >>> Hi Devin, >>> >>> My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. >>> However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the >>> Big Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s the >>> link: >>> https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_search=1 >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> Janet >>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and >>>> VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else? >>>> >>>> Devin Prater >>>> >>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer <marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> thanks so very much to all who replied. >>>>> you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better >>>>> than the sense of dread I was developing. >>>>> you all have been most helpful. >>>>> I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in >>>>> posting them. >>>>> Best to all, Marlene. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page >>>>>> (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands): >>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236 >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a >>>>>>> Mac user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white >>>>>>> polycarbon plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC >>>>>>> the same day so I was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to >>>>>>> learn the OS and I've been loving the Mac ever since. Someone said on >>>>>>> this list a while ago that if you really want to learn how to use this >>>>>>> platform, you should forget everything you know about Windows and to >>>>>>> not use your PC as a crutch when you're frustrated with the Mac. They >>>>>>> were great words and I took them to heart. I think that's why I'm very >>>>>>> good at it. Also, along with this list, I have a Whatsapp group called >>>>>>> Mac Users and Newbies which is also a great group. If you'd like to be >>>>>>> added and if you're on a mobile phone such as iOS or Android, you can >>>>>>> send me your contact information and I'll put you in the group. Enjoy >>>>>>> the Mac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shawn >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That’s probably true. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me. I >>>>>>>>>> think it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t >>>>>>>>>> part of Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav. Also, in my >>>>>>>>>> case, I’d been a PC user for about twenty years. 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