Hi Karen,

The fact that you insist that Chat GPT doesn’t deal with the abstract surprises 
me.  The fact that it can deal with the abstract is one of the factors that 
makes it, as Gabe put it, both intriguing and alarming.  You asked me to search 
for articles.  Here is an article that you may find interesting:
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/chat-with-chatgpt
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/chat-with-chatgpt

Donna

> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna,
> I respect your stance, but I invite you to search for articles showcasing 
> when  the tool has been used, songwriting for drake, trying to write a mash 
> script for Alan alda, the factors around its use in the current writer's 
> strike.
> I imagine the usage is in the hands of the beholder if that makes sense.
> Best,
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> 
>> Actually, Karen, I have to disagree.  I know writers who use it to help them 
>> generate ideas for their fiction.  That’s pretty abstract.  And those same 
>> writers will tell you that they do often repeat the prompt in order to get a 
>> variety of responses.
>> Best,
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The program is not created for independent thought.
>>> It is created to piece together the thoughts, information so forth from 
>>> others.
>>> The same question over and  over?  perhaps.  Abstract? no, fortunately, 
>>> because that keeps human touch in place.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, Jessica Moss wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Isn’t it?  I play around with it from time to time, but where I’ve found 
>>>> it to have fallen a little short is when it comes to its ability to write 
>>>> code, unless there’s something I’m missing.  I asked it one day after 
>>>> listening to the AppleVis podcast Thomas Domville did, borrowed his idea 
>>>> to have it create multiple choice questions about AppleVis, but then asked 
>>>> it to create a sharable template with radio buttons, which it attempted to 
>>>> do, but instead of radio buttons, it created checkboxes.  I then attempted 
>>>> to test the line of code it created on Codepen.io <http://codepen.io/>, 
>>>> and unfortunately the site wouldn’t have anything to do with it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Brandon Olivares <thepianist2...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use it regularly and it works really well, though it has limits. I use 
>>>>> it to help with writing, sometimes to help with programming, to 
>>>>> brainstorm ideas, etc. It’s definitely insane how far things have come in 
>>>>> such a short time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW you don’t necessarily need the app: there is a web interface as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:39 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product
>>>>>> from the Open A I project.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you 
>>>>>> finding
>>>>>> it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the
>>>>>> Wallstreet Journal?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find.  I did
>>>>>> not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how Chat
>>>>>> GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job of 
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> apparently.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I look forward to reading your replies,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
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