Hi Karen, I also realized something else after I sent this message. You’re referring to people trying to write in the style of someone or something else. I’m referring to writers using Chat GPT as a tool to spark their own creativity or help to push their way through writers’ block, not imitate others. Where imitating others is concerned, I agree. Chat GPT will use very defined parameters to create something in that style, and hence it is not particularly abstract. That’s a different prompt than something like, “explain the motivation of Jane, who has recently learned that she can fly, but has decided she does not want to do so.” In the latter case I’m not referring back to a previous work or style, I’m just asking Chat GPT to generate ideas. Cheers, Donna > The fact that you insist that Chat GPT doesn’t deal with the abstract > surprises me. The fact that it can deal with the abstract is one of the > factors that makes it, as Gabe put it, both intriguing and alarming. You > asked me to search for articles. Here is an article that you may find > interesting: > https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/chat-with-chatgpt > https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/texts/chat-with-chatgpt > > Donna > >> On Jul 11, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> I respect your stance, but I invite you to search for articles showcasing >> when the tool has been used, songwriting for drake, trying to write a mash >> script for Alan alda, the factors around its use in the current writer's >> strike. >> I imagine the usage is in the hands of the beholder if that makes sense. >> Best, >> Karen >> >> >> >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> >>> Actually, Karen, I have to disagree. I know writers who use it to help >>> them generate ideas for their fiction. That’s pretty abstract. And those >>> same writers will tell you that they do often repeat the prompt in order to >>> get a variety of responses. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 11, 2023, at 9:20 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The program is not created for independent thought. >>>> It is created to piece together the thoughts, information so forth from >>>> others. >>>> The same question over and over? perhaps. Abstract? no, fortunately, >>>> because that keeps human touch in place. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 11 Jul 2023, Jessica Moss wrote: >>>> >>>>> Isn’t it? I play around with it from time to time, but where I’ve found >>>>> it to have fallen a little short is when it comes to its ability to write >>>>> code, unless there’s something I’m missing. I asked it one day after >>>>> listening to the AppleVis podcast Thomas Domville did, borrowed his idea >>>>> to have it create multiple choice questions about AppleVis, but then >>>>> asked it to create a sharable template with radio buttons, which it >>>>> attempted to do, but instead of radio buttons, it created checkboxes. I >>>>> then attempted to test the line of code it created on Codepen.io >>>>> <http://codepen.io/>, and unfortunately the site wouldn’t have anything >>>>> to do with it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 11:01 PM, Brandon Olivares >>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I use it regularly and it works really well, though it has limits. I use >>>>>> it to help with writing, sometimes to help with programming, to >>>>>> brainstorm ideas, etc. It’s definitely insane how far things have come >>>>>> in such a short time. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW you don’t necessarily need the app: there is a web interface as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2023, at 10:39 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just so you know, I am posting this to both lists. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I keep running into all kinds of news articles on Chat GPT, a product >>>>>>> from the Open A I project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone downloaded the app from the App Store and, if so, are you >>>>>>> finding >>>>>>> it as amazing as some of the news reporters from USA Today and the >>>>>>> Wallstreet Journal? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I went to the website at chat.openai.com to see what I could find. I >>>>>>> did >>>>>>> not find much; I'll have to download the app to really check it out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, the article I read today, in the Apple News app talked about how >>>>>>> Chat >>>>>>> GPT planned the writer's vacation itinerary and did a pretty good job >>>>>>> of it, >>>>>>> apparently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I look forward to reading your replies, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >>>>>>> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >>>>>>> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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