Well the Mac Mini in one way is not a entry level pc. Lets take this for example. The lowest end Mac mini will cost you with out taxes and S&H is 600 bucks Now add a keyboard to it lets say the USB keyboard with the num pad this is another 49 bucks with out tax and S&H, Now we need a mouse so lets add it at a cost of 49 bucks this is the apple usb mouse and is with out taxes and S&H. Now we need a display lets see. This is a cost of 899 bucks this will not include taxes but is saying S& H is free. Now you don't need the web cam or speakers it has this and it is a very nice display at 24 inches. So now lets look at the total of 1700 bucks and this does not include taxes and this does not include extended warranty on anything. Now this is buying it as a new user with out anything and no additional software or hardware. Now I would say this is not hardly a Entrance level pc. And this is with a low end processer of just 2.26 dual core and just 2 mb of memory. So if you don't have all the additives like keyboard, mice and display this is not a good deal for a little bit more you can get a Mac Pro or a I Mac decked out. You can really buy a windows pc that is decked out with soft ware and all for this price or less. This is considering you can see and the screen reader does not come in to play and even then there is free ones out their to do most things just not as robust as JFW or Window eyes. SO is the low end Mac Mini a entrance level pc I would say no not according to cost. As what the pc has in it yes. Just my thoughts. Oh this is buying everything from Apple. Which I would consider a new buyer would do from Dell, HP, Alien Ware or any where else. It is called one stop shopping and where you might have the money at.
Sign, Joe Plummer ( JP ) joeplum...@tds.net -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:16 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mac Mini and idea for MacBooks Yep. If they're going to buy the basic Mini as it is configured by Apple, then it is a good deal and a good entry level computer. As you start to upgrade it, though, the prices increase such that you'd get a better deal if you just bought the entry level iMac or MacBook. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris G Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 12:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac Mini and idea for MacBooks Sure, but when people are talking about the mini being a way to get ones feet wet with Mac, I still say $800 shouldn't be considered an entry level PC. $500 yes, $800 no. On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:44:27 -0400 Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: > And you cannot compare an entry-level PC with an entry-level Mac. Macs are going to always be more expensive on average and they can and will continue to command the price charged. > They share perhaps some similar technologies and so forth, but at the same time there are a number of differences and lease of which is Apple's business approach is not like HP's etc. > Apple has been successful over the last number of years because of good business practices. > > On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:03 AM, Chris G wrote: > > > I agree, and in my book an $800 computer is not an entry level computer. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:00:48 -0400 > > "Joe Plummer" <joeplum...@tds.net> wrote: > > > >> Yes, it would put it up in cost. But the high end will cost you > >> around 1000 bucks out the door any how. So not saying put it on > >> the entry level of it but on the high end of it. Another words > >> giving you options. This is what they are already doing on the high end any how. Just more thoughts. > >> > >> > >> > >> Sign, > >> Joe Plummer ( JP ) > >> joeplum...@tds.net > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo > >> Walker > >> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 6:09 AM > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Mac Mini and idea for MacBooks > >> > >> Hi Joe, > >> > >> Adding these things to a Mac mini at this time would make the price > >> rival that of an iMac. I don't think Apple would want to do that. > >> Remember, the mini is suppose to be the entry level mac. > >> On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Joe Plummer wrote: > >> > >>> Well that is what I would be wanting a better processor like the > >>> new quad they are putting in laptops and more memory and faster > >>> hard drive, this would be a big start and a major upgrade. Maybe > >>> even a better graphic card and sound card. Now this being said > >>> they might have to make it the case a bit bigger but that would be > >>> ok as long as they say did not add more than 2 inches each way. > >>> Just my thoughts and > >> wishes. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Sign, > >>> Joe Plummer ( JP ) > >>> joeplum...@tds.net > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben > >>> Mustill-Rose > >>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:35 AM > >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: Mac Mini and idea for MacBooks > >>> > >>> Minies have there place, you wouldn't just stick an iPad in the > >>> living room to act as a media center would you. > >>> What would you change about the mini? It's meant to be a small > >>> computer, so other than changing the spec, I don't really see what > >>> else > >> could be done. > >>> > >>> On 16/04/2010, marie Howarth <marie.jane2...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> I do believe they updated the minis last year. But as others have > >>>> suggested, desktop or laptop computers will be around for a while yet. > >>>> I think Apple will keep the mini regardless, to give consumers > >>>> more choice. As for the battery status lights, I didn't know it > >>>> existed, and after 18 months of having my mac, can't say I have missed it. > >>>> > >>>> On 16 Apr 2010, at 06:26, Rob Lambert wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Since VoiceOver, and the Mac Mini have been around since 05, > >>>>> this will be relevant. What is your take on a full redesign of the Mini? > >>>>> Aside from the back, and insides, the overall system itself > >>>>> hasn't budged in the last five years. I think the design is > >>>>> starting to get stale, but what do you think? I also have an > >>>>> idea for the MacBook Pros. You know on the side that there's a > >>>>> button that is essentially a visual battery checker? Well, for > >>>>> those who don't know, you push the button & lights will light > >>>>> up. HOw much do you think it would be to create a more tactile > >>>>> version of this? I only ask because low vision users with enough > >>>>> vision, and fully sighted people, can press a button while the > >>>>> computer is off and get the battery status. 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