Chris Hofstader wrote:
rl: This is rather surprising, that they would do this. Regarding the
18+ thing, there are apps that won't download unless you consent that
you are not a minor. Unfortunately, that requires a simple yes/no
click, but at the same time, it's after your password, so that's
some layer of protection...but i don't know.
cdh: While not related specifically to Apple, the availability of
pornography to kids versus the availability of books to blind people
is a real piss off to me.
cdh: When a kid finds a porno site online, the only proof of age is
typically a button that says, "I swear I am over 18" which has no way
of verifying the veracity of the person who clicked the button. We
have a Federal law that makes it illegal to sell porn to people under
18 years old so, if the person who pressed the button is a liar, the
site is committing a Federal offense.
cdh: Meanwhile, we have a Federal law guaranteeing books for people
with vision and other print impairments. To get to NLS, Bookshare,
etc. we need to jump through hoops to prove that, indeed, we are blind.
cdh: So, why is it much easier to break one law and follow another?
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Joe Plummer <joeplum...@tds.net
<mailto:joeplum...@tds.net>> wrote:
Well this is a law suit waiting and begging to be picked up and
they will
win it. This is going against the your US right as a citizen.
Called Freedom
of speech and Freedom of Press! So I think this is why Apple
changed it mind
This is like saying you can surf the internet but here is where
you can go
and read and this it. This is not right for adults. Now for
children under
the age of 18 this might have some value. So they I think should
say yes you
can have it on the store but because of the nature of the app you
need to
have some kind of age verification. But this is my thoughts and I
been
around the legal system a long time.
Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
joeplum...@tds.net <mailto:joeplum...@tds.net>
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I got this and thought it would be of interest to some n the
list. Not
sure what I think yet.
Carolyn
Mark Fiore's job is making fun of political figures. And he's
actually quite good at it, according to the Pulitzer Prize Committee.
Earlier this week it named him the winner of the Pulitzer
Prize in
editorial cartooning, but Apple rejected an iPhone app containing
Fiore's
cartoons in
December. The reason? Apple said applications that
ridicule public
figures are not allowed.
That presents a problem for Fiore, and all editorial
cartoonists and
political satirists who'd like to submit their work to the App
Store for
that matter,
because, well, that's what they do.
Luckily for Fiore, the Nieman Journalism Lab took up his
cause and
wrote about his app's rejection. A day later Apple relented, and
on Friday
asked Fiore
to resubmit. The New York Times reported Friday afternoon
that Steve
Jobs himself called it "a mistake that's being fixed." That's
great for
Fiore, but
not every political satirist is a Pulitzer winner who can get
publicity for his app's unfair rejection.
So what does that mean for the future of news or editorial
products
on the iPad and iPhone? It's safe to assume that quashing
political satire
isn't Apple's
goal here. But it's a legitimate concern for the journalism
community that to be featured on the App Store they have to
submit their
news content to a
company unafraid to exercise what sometimes seems like
arbitrary
control. The thinking goes, what if Apple finds a headline
offensive? Or
what if there's
an unfavorable article about Apple itself even? That's not
to say
Apple would do that, but its inconsistent handling of App Store
submissions
sets a troubling
precedent.
The rejected-then-unrejected brouhaha surrounding Fiore's
cartoon
app, and others like it--the Mad Magazine artist's Bobble Rep app
comes to
mind--also
illuminate the central issue facing Apple with the App
Store right
now. The company's decision to tightly control what is and is not
allowed on
the iPhone
or iPad has led it to develop a review process that is not
sustainable.
Having individuals look at each one of the hundreds of
thousands of
apps that pour into the App Store and accurately and consistently
police
them for both
technical and content issues is impossible now and will
only be more
so as the App Store inevitably grows. The solution would be to
have clear,
stated
rules of what can or can't be put on the App Store, but
that's not
what Apple has chosen. And that gray area is what scares
developers who put
a lot of
work into their apps, and who could be rejected outright
for some
subjective problem an App Store reviewer has found with that
particular app.
Which brings us back to the news issue. The problem of
Apple's lack
of transparency with App Store rules and tendency toward control is
compounded by Apple
luring the print news industry to the iPad. It's a device that
(rightly or wrongly) is being praised as a way to save print
publications.
And that control
inevitably raises new questions about Apple's relationship
with
newspapers, like The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal
for example,
that are putting
their content on the App Store via paid applications.
The Columbia Journalism Review has issued a call to media
companies
not to get too cozy with Apple. Writes Ryan Chittum:
Look, let's face it. The iPad is the most exciting
opportunity for
the media in many years. But if the press is ceding gatekeeper
status, even
if it's
only nominally, over its speech, then it is making a dangerous
mistake. Unless Apple explicitly gives the press complete control
over its
ability to publish
what it sees fit, the news media needs to yank its apps in
protest.
Yes, this is that serious. It needs to wrest back control
of its
speech from Apple Inc.
The CJR then points out the obvious: newspapers and magazines
wouldn't put itself under the influence of the government like
this, so why
is a corporation,
especially one with control-freak tendencies like Apple, any
different?
If the iPad does become a significant revenue source for print
publications who turn their newspapers or magazines into iPad
apps, it is
logical that it
could be harder for them to stand up to Apple.
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Hi all,
Just two quick qwuestions:
1. Is there a way to get epub files I have to the iPad?
2. I know we can sink podcasts from the mac to iPads. Can we use the
built-in itunes on the iPad to download them as well?
Thanks for the help,
Jesse
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