Tje rotor utility is not efficient enough for me, I hate to make a
comparison but with jaws I get to a text edit field, like the google
webpage one, automatically or by pressing the f key.  With voice over
in safari, when I go to the google webpage I have to use the VO keys
along with the right arrow key several times, about 4 or 5, to get to
the text edit field.  The safari way requires more key strokes, if I
could remove key strokes then better.  I could use the web item rotor
and the fo to forms, and then the text edit field but I think this
requires the same number of keystrokes.  Maybe as I get used to the
mac I will get better and be able to find a wayt o do this.  I will
try grouping mode to see if this helps.  Should the voice over cursor
be focus on the google search field when i load the google web page?
It does on other pages, like the gmail web page.  Maybe if I turn off
automatic speaking of webpages when they load.  Thank for clarifying
the thing about the multiple tabs, I search online, on google, and
only found one solution for this, and i think it was becuase of safari
5 extensions, whcih I currently do not have.  With everyone saying
that it caused them trouble I will stay away from it for another month
or so.  Thanks again for the response.
alfredo

Chris Moore wrote:
> Is the form item in the rota not efficient enough for you? (you can create a 
> short cut to toggle between DOM and group mode)
> as for text elements , have you tried surfing in grouping mode?when you 
> mention tabs, do you mean they are automatically open with the web pages 
> loaded of your choice?  Not that I am aware of maybe as Safari 5 has been 
> opened up someone might develop an add on.  for now you will have to press 
> command + T for a new tab. and then use control + tab to cycle through them.
> On 22 Jun 2010, at 18:08, Alfredo wrote:
>
> > I am going through the online tutorial with voice over and am hitting
> > some bumps in the way.
> > 1.  Can you navigate the web by form field like in jaws?  In jaws you
> > just clicked the “f” key and you would land on a form field, such as
> > an edit box, radio button, or button.
> > 2.  Is there a way to navigate text element by text element, sometimes
> > it would be useful just to get to the text section of a webpage,
> > especially ones that contain many links.  Is there a hot key to
> > navigate text element by text element on the web?
> > 3.  I was reading the select multiple items section and tried it on
> > the Voice over utilities, VO + F8, and went into his web section, and
> > went to the web rotor popup menu.  I wanted to select multiple items
> > or deselect multiple items but I could not.  Plus VO does not tell you
> > if the checkbox on the popup menu is on or off, even when I pressed VO
> > + f8.  Can anyone shine a light on this?  I can live with having to
> > close the menu for every selected Item I want but it would be more
> > convenient to just select all items I want then close the popup
> > menu.
> > 4.  Is there a way to set up multiple tabs upon starting safari?  I
> > had multiple tabs for my internet explorer on windows since this way I
> > have quick access to my bank account webpage, phone bill web page,
> > Google search, Gmail, NFL website, book share, and others.  Does
> > anyone know how to do this?
> > 6.  Is there a way to activate a link from within the web item rotor?
> > Like for example, instead of just going to the link selected from the
> > web item rotor can I activate that link so that the web page will load
> > up auto magically?  This would save me on more steps in selecting the
> > link.  If there is no way to do this, then I will send an email to
> > apple suggesting that they add this feature.  The can do like, if you
> > press the control key while selecting a link on the web item rotor you
> > will activate the like not only go to it.
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated; the Mac experience is going
> > good so far
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