> Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone?
No it doesn't fit.  

Mike

> On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik,
>> 
>> Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display?  I'd be 
>> interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille 
>> devices.  I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple 
>> Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock.  These are mostly the movement and 
>> selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key 
>> combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or Down 
>> Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards.  This 
>> may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the Fn key.  
>> What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of Command-Space bar to 
>> switch input language keyboards works with these keyboards.  (This shortcut 
>> key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus of Cocoa keybindings, and 
>> predates the existence of Spotlight, which was also assigned this shortcut.)
>> http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html
>> The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman letters, 
>> such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, you'd better set 
>> your language rotor to "Default" if you want to hear these options 
>> announced.  (And I'm really happy there is a language rotor in iOS4.)
>> 
>> Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to remap 
>> the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can customize 
>> shortcut key combinations.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Jun 30, 2010, Donna Goodin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Thuy,
>>> 
>>> Interesting.  I did go into practice gestures, and was surprised to find 
>>> that there weren't too many commands available.  I wonder if this could be 
>>> unique to the Alva.  The basics were there, of course, navigate left/right, 
>>> move to next item, touble-tap item, but I saw nothing for page-down.  I'll 
>>> check again, but maybe I'll drop Apple a quick note about this.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donna
>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Thuy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna. I have been able to make this work with my eurobraille
>>>> esys12 and the iphone 3gs running ios4. To find out the key commands
>>>> from the braille display, go into the voiceover practise gesture area
>>>> and try out different combinations. Mine has two options for a lot of
>>>> functions including the page up and down. If you have input keys,
>>>> sometimes a chord will work? With mine I have a left joystick or I can
>>>> do it with the o-chord or ow-chord . Sometimes it changes the page,
>>>> but doesn't always refresh it on the display unless you move out of
>>>> the text area into the bookmark button and then back into the text
>>>> area, you might be lucky? Hope this helps?
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> 
>>>> Thuy
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/06/2010, Donna Goodin <goodi...@msu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I haven't yet found a way to assign keys on the iphone.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:54 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, can you not manually assign a key to do this?  Unfortunately I don't
>>>>>> have the IPhone 4 yet, though I am extraordinarily covetous and will
>>>>>> probably try to justify the expense in the next several months.  It 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be possible one way or the other though, and as long as you are
>>>>>> interacting with the page that should take care of the focus issue.  I'll
>>>>>> admit I'm super intrigued by the possibility of Ibooks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf
>>>>>> User support consultant,
>>>>>> Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
>>>>>> Toll-free: 888-255-5194
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2010-06-30, at 9:56 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Anyone had much luck with this?  I'm using and Alva BC640.  First,  
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> doesn't seem to be a command for the 3-finger flick to simulate turning
>>>>>>> the page, so you have to use the page chooser.  This works OK, except
>>>>>>> that once I've chosen a page, the only way I've found to get the braille
>>>>>>> display to the page content is to pick up my iphone and touch the text.
>>>>>>> Just wondering if anyone's found an easier way to do this.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> 
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