Esther, knowing your such a wealth, a fountain of information, do you know how much of an impact there is on the battery of your iPod Touch or maybe even an iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all the other stuff? I also think it would be nice if bluetooth could be set to non-discoverable once you have a device paired, but that may not have any affect on security or battery savings.
tnx, On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Courtney, > > Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. > I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who have > been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. I'm not > sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, since that's > the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough space to stock > it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their accessories. If you > want something like the Cable Jive "dockXtender" (weird spelling) that Geoff > posted about on the viphone list for use with the Otterbox Defender cases, > then my guess is that you'll have to go through the manufacturer's order page: > http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html > That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as > opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not the > Otterbox Defender. Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the iPad > keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when docked. > There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a bottom > portion of the case off to dock, though. They include cases like the Griffin > Wave and the Incase Slider. On the other hand, using a dock extender cable > will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come with the iPod > Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since you can still > access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod Touch. This iPod > Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits in the dock, unlike > the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset jack along the top > right side of the device, and so remains available even when the device is > docked. If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch through a headset, > instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect my headset to the > mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard dock. That won't > allow me to control the volume and playback through the headset controls, but > I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward, and > I attach a volume control cable that you can get from Radio Shack to dial > down the volume. (I'm not sure the link will work, but the product is > "Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo Headphones", Model: 42-2559, > Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of $8.99, which seems more than I > paid.) Web URL is: > http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975 > When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the > keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for rewind, > play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12 positions for > mute, decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the Macbook keyboard. > Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive note taking an typing, > this isn't an issue. I don't really need to have all the media controls > through the headset mic cable if I'm actively typing, and if I'm not typing > large amounts of text I'll pull the iPod Touch off of the dock. If you want > more portability you might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard. The > action of the keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively flat, > chiclet type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) > laptops. Each key is separated, the "f" and "j" keys have horizontal bars to > distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short travel > distance of current laptop keyboards. The keyboard dock does give you a few > more keys, such as the one to return to the home page, and the one to take > you to the search page (first two keys in the top row, starting at the left). > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod Touch >> this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the dock extention >> connector cable there, or will I have to wait an agonizingly long time >> (smiles)? >> Courtney >> >> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >> >>> Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is >>> foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type a >>> longer SMS or email. Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable. Actually >>> I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but that is way >>> too big LOL >>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> >>>> I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link to >>>> an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone 3GS at >>>> Slashgear: >>>> http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/ >>>> There's an earlier post I wrote on "iPad keyboard options" that has a link >>>> to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links and excerpts to Dan >>>> Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad keyboard dock and the Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg19393.html >>>> There are some other considerations that I've discussed on the viphone >>>> list. The keyboard dock is less portable than the Wireless (BlueTooth) >>>> keyboard. In order to support the larger iPad, it has a stabilizer base >>>> that extends out the back of the keyboard, so it weighs nearly twice as >>>> much as the wireless keyboard (21.4 ounces vs. 11.4 ounces, or 600 grams >>>> vs. 320 grams). It's about the size of the iPhone (very slightly larger), >>>> and extends out from the middle of the keyboard so that it supports the >>>> keyboard at a slight angle for easier typing. The stabilizer base also >>>> supports the back of the iPod Touch or iPad. It supports about the bottom >>>> third of my iPod Touch, as it sits on the dock connector, and is very >>>> slightly wider than the device. >>>> >>>> Good points of the keyboard dock are: support in fixed position makes it >>>> easy to alternate between typing and touching the screen, dock has a >>>> connector that allows you to charge your device while docked, and also has >>>> a standard 3.5 mm audio jack connector that lets you connect up to audio >>>> system or speakers (or, you could plug in your headset). >>>> >>>> Possible issues: you can't use a case on the bottom of the device that you >>>> dock (not a problem for me, since my iPod Touch case can slide the bottom >>>> half off), less portable (because of weight and shape), probably not >>>> optimal for docking the new iPhone 4 (because of the different shape >>>> design and thickness). Also, the iPhone speaker is at the bottom of the >>>> device, so I don't know how this would work if receive a call while typing. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Does the iPad keyboard dock work with the iPhone? >>>>> On 30 Jun 2010, at 16:42, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Thuy, Donna, and Erik, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you really do page up and page down on the Braille Display? I'd be >>>>>> interested to see a list of the navigation capabilities of the Braille >>>>>> devices. I'm writing up a summary of keyboard shortcuts for the Apple >>>>>> Wireless Keyboard and iPad Keyboard Dock. These are mostly the movement >>>>>> and selection commands you are familiar with, but none of the Fn key >>>>>> combinations that work on the Macbook to page up or page down (Fn+Up or >>>>>> Down Arrow), or to forward delete (Fn+Delete) work with these keyboards. >>>>>> This may be a decision, since the iPad Keyboard Dock doesn't have the >>>>>> Fn key. What's interesting is that the shortcut combination of >>>>>> Command-Space bar to switch input language keyboards works with these >>>>>> keyboards. (This shortcut key combination is in the list by Jacob Rus >>>>>> of Cocoa keybindings, and predates the existence of Spotlight, which was >>>>>> also assigned this shortcut.) >>>>>> http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/site/system-bindings.html >>>>>> The only thing is, if you want to switch to language with non-Roman >>>>>> letters, such as Russian (cyrillic characters), Greek, or Japanese, >>>>>> you'd better set your language rotor to "Default" if you want to hear >>>>>> these options announced. (And I'm really happy there is a language >>>>>> rotor in iOS4.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik, you can't assign new keys under iOS4, so unless there's a way to >>>>>> remap the key assignments on the Braille devices, I don't think you can >>>>>> customize shortcut key combinations. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
