Hi Carolyn,

Yes that is what I was told and I should correct myself. I did state that 
trying to scan the barcode of a can is a little tricky, but I did manage it 
once. I have not tried the technique on a few other cans, but your tip is spot 
on. However, again, a good idea is to hold the phone against the item and back 
away during the scan process. That is how I did get a can scanned.

Thanks,
On Jul 8, 2010, at 10:07 PM, Carolyn wrote:

> Hey Scott:I don't know if this'll help at all, but I use an ID mate from 
> Nvision America.  And I bring it up because from using it, I've learned that 
> the bar-codes on cans tend to be right around where the sceam of the label 
> is.  Obviously, that doesn't work for canned pop.  But, it's pretty flawless 
> with canned soups, veg, etc.  This might help those using apps like Digiteyes.
>  
> Carolyn
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> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
> 
> Bryan,
> 
> I have used this application successfully with several types of packages. I 
> have found cans to be particularly tricky. I can tell you that my greatest 
> success seem to be starting out with my 3GS against the item, and once I 
> started the scan, slowly back the phone away from the item. Again, this 
> worked for me on several items. I have not run all over the house grabbing 
> everything with a barcode, so I can't say that I have encountered every 
> possible packaging type and this refers to shiny packaging, different color 
> combinations, etc. I don't even know for sure if these are factors. I agree 
> it would be nice if an external laser barcode reader could be used because 
> this would seriously speed up the process of scanning items in a store etc. I 
> put that suggestion out there and not sure if it will be considered or not. I 
> realize carrying such a device does defeat some of the purpose perhaps, but 
> it does allow for additional opportunities, such as someone who maintains 
> inventory etc. Perhaps you have and if not, share your experiences and 
> suggestion.
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
> > I'm writing to share my experiences with Digit-Eyes.
> > 
> > I tried it on my iPhone 4, with several bar codes, and it didn't recognize 
> > even one of them. I don't mean that the code was located, but not 
> > recognized. I mean that the code was not even detected as being in the 
> > image. I'd tap the scan button, and the constant clicking would begin to 
> > let me know that scanning was in progress. I was scanning in a brightly lit 
> > room, and the screen curtain was not on. Rotating the containers in front 
> > of the iPhone camera, with it held about a foot away from them, produced no 
> > results. I had a sighted friend deliberately place the bar code in view, 
> > something that I would have not been able to do on my own, and it wasn't 
> > recognized, either. We just kept trying different angles, and rotating, but 
> > all we got was more clicking from the Digit-Eyes scanner.
> > 
> > I had some experience with creating a system like this several years ago. 
> > At that time, CCD cameras were not as accurate. Even so, for best results, 
> > we determined that a 3D laser scanner would be required in order for bar 
> > codes to be detected in the way that a blind person is likely to present 
> > them to the scanner: at angles, in shadow, etc. This is the technique used 
> > by other commercial systems like the ID Mate. I was lead to understand that 
> > this wasn't a concern with Digit-Eyes, due to the higher quality camera in 
> > the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. However, based on my results, I'd say that 
> > this isn't so.
> > 
> > Perhaps Digit-Eyes works better with dedicated labels, but, if I were to 
> > make dedicated labels, I'd just create Braille labels. I realize that 
> > everyone doesn't read Braille, and so audio labels still might be of use to 
> > some people. However, the advertised function of being able to read bar 
> > codes seems to not work, or else, it might work, but requires a level of 
> > alignment precision that I've not been able to achieve. I'm usually quite 
> > capable when it comes to reasoning through these types of situations, so my 
> > conclusion is that I've either overlooked something profound, or else the 
> > level of alignment that is required for a good scan is grater than most 
> > blind people will independently obtain without assistance. If you need 
> > assistance, you might as well ask the sighted person what is on the label. 
> > *shrug*
> > 
> > I'd like to hear the experiences of others. However, I can't personally 
> > suggest that anyone spend the $30 that is charged for this app if they 
> > expect to use it as a bar code scanner.
> > 
> > Bryan
> > 
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