Ok, I can get this to work, but voice over does not tell you that the item is a mouse over, actually I think using this is an example of bad web design, even if voice over did announce it, because you have to actually move the mouse itself to the link, putting the system focus on it is not sufficient. Anyway, once your voice over cursor is on the item, press VO command f5 to place the mouse on the item. You can then use the voice over navigation to see what has changed on the page. On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote:
> Hi, > > Thanks for everyone's responses. Several folks had asked me to provide an > example of a onMouseover or roll over event. See > http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/MouseOver.htm On the left > side of the page are images of JAWS, Magic and OpenBook. If the user rolls > the mouse over these items, descriptions appear. The user can activate these > same descriptions with JAWS. I haven't found a way to do this with VoiceOver. > > Help here would be appreciated. > > Thanks. Rajiv > > > > ---- Original message ---- >> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:46:52 -0400 >> From: erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> >> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> Hi, You wrote: >> >>> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other >>> stuff, use Mac. >> >> That's not accurate, right, or fare, or even what any one here said. It >> would be more Accurate to say adobe will not support us on the mac platform, >> and if you want to use a drm that is proprietary to windows, then you have >> to use windows. >> >> I can use the flash on the mlb.com website which was built with >> accessibility in mind. It works just fine on the mac, but is not supported. >> That means I can listen to my baseball game, and thanks to the developers >> of that particular application, I can pause, mute, adjust the volume and >> have access to other features of the player. >> >> In summary, all of the support you want on your mac comes from third parties >> who don't want to support you, not from apple itself. >> >> Then you Wrote: >>> to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this relates to an >>> onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver event. How do >>> folks know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver? >>> >> You've got to give us a sample site as requested earlier. For myself, I'm >> not sure voiceover makes all that much distinction between onclick and >> onmouseover, but if we don't know what you are looking at exactly, how are >> we supposed to clarify for you one way or the other? >> >> Sorry if the tone of this sounds a bit abrupt. I'm flying out the door for >> work. >> >> Take'er easy. >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille >> box. >> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and >> subscribe. >> >> On 2010-08-09, at 7:56 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Actually several outfits still use Flash including the BBC. Here is the >>> summary I am getting from folks: >>> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other >>> stuff, use Mac. Also, to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, >>> this relates to an onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an >>> onMouseOver event. How do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there >>> with VoiceOver? >>> >>> Rajiv >>> >>> ---- Original message ---- >>>> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 21:54:23 +1200 >>>> From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>> Subject: RE: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> both apple and Microsoft have made the decision to move away from flash and >>>> go to html5. The only one still using flash appears to be youtube, owned >>>> if >>>> I'm not mistaken by google. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw >>>> Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 2:06 a.m. >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>>> >>>> Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less >>>> bloated and less proprietary. >>>> >>>> For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it with >>>> JAWS. >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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