Hi, Thanks. This is very helpful.
Regards, Rajiv ---- Original message ---- >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:31:56 -0500 >From: Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> >Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >Ok, I can get this to work, but voice over does not tell you that the item is >a mouse over, actually I think using this is an example of bad web design, >even if voice over did announce it, because you have to actually move the >mouse itself to the link, putting the system focus on it is not sufficient. >Anyway, once your voice over cursor is on the item, press VO command f5 to >place the mouse on the item. You can then use the voice over navigation to see >what has changed on the page. >On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for everyone's responses. Several folks had asked me to provide an >> example of a onMouseover or roll over event. See >> http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/MouseOver.htm On the left >> side of the page are images of JAWS, Magic and OpenBook. If the user rolls >> the mouse over these items, descriptions appear. The user can activate these >> same descriptions with JAWS. I haven't found a way to do this with VoiceOver. >> >> Help here would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks. Rajiv >> >> >> >> ---- Original message ---- >>> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:46:52 -0400 >>> From: erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> >>> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> >>> Hi, You wrote: >>> >>>> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other >>>> stuff, use Mac. >>> >>> That's not accurate, right, or fare, or even what any one here said. It >>> would be more Accurate to say adobe will not support us on the mac >>> platform, and if you want to use a drm that is proprietary to windows, then >>> you have to use windows. >>> >>> I can use the flash on the mlb.com website which was built with >>> accessibility in mind. It works just fine on the mac, but is not >>> supported. That means I can listen to my baseball game, and thanks to the >>> developers of that particular application, I can pause, mute, adjust the >>> volume and have access to other features of the player. >>> >>> In summary, all of the support you want on your mac comes from third >>> parties who don't want to support you, not from apple itself. >>> >>> Then you Wrote: >>>> to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, this relates to an >>>> onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an onMouseOver event. How >>>> do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there with VoiceOver? >>>> >>> You've got to give us a sample site as requested earlier. For myself, I'm >>> not sure voiceover makes all that much distinction between onclick and >>> onmouseover, but if we don't know what you are looking at exactly, how are >>> we supposed to clarify for you one way or the other? >>> >>> Sorry if the tone of this sounds a bit abrupt. I'm flying out the door for >>> work. >>> >>> Take'er easy. >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille >>> box. >>> Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and >>> subscribe. >>> >>> On 2010-08-09, at 7:56 AM, Rajiv Shah wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Actually several outfits still use Flash including the BBC. Here is the >>>> summary I am getting from folks: >>>> If you need to use Flash and DRM, use Windows. If you want to use other >>>> stuff, use Mac. Also, to clarify one point. If VoiceOver says clickable, >>>> this relates to an onClick event rather than a mouseOver. THis is an >>>> onMouseOver event. How do folks know that the onMouseOver event is there >>>> with VoiceOver? >>>> >>>> Rajiv >>>> >>>> ---- Original message ---- >>>>> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 21:54:23 +1200 >>>>> From: "Simon Fogarty" <si...@blinky-net.com> >>>>> Subject: RE: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> >>>>> both apple and Microsoft have made the decision to move away from flash >>>>> and >>>>> go to html5. The only one still using flash appears to be youtube, owned >>>>> if >>>>> I'm not mistaken by google. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Shaw >>>>> Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 2:06 a.m. >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office >>>>> >>>>> Flash sucks. This is why Apple is pushing HTML 5. It's open, it's less >>>>> bloated and less proprietary. >>>>> >>>>> For using Flash, you may still need to run Windows on a Mac and use it >>>>> with >>>>> JAWS. >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"MacVisionaries" group. >To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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