Hi. When I started this thread, I wasn't thinking of the key click feature. Actually, I would never use it. However, in order to help the accessibility people at Apple, would it be fair to say that the key clicks you envisage would sound like the ones that the Mac gives us when we enter secure passwords? I rather like the fact that these key clicks are issued.
Best to all, Mike On 13,Aug,2010, at 9:09 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > lol. tha'ts tprobably why I type very hard, eather that or it's my piano > playing that causes me to type hard. lol! > > > On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:24 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> exactly! jut have them add it to the typing echo place in the verbosity >> settings. a really fast click would be nice as laptop keyboard are very >> quiet. those of us who learned to type on an IBM selectric or other electric >> typewriters before we had computers would appreciate it.. wnat t make it >> very fancy, record an ibm selectric it isn't tactile feedback but it would >> be handy I sometimes miss letters if I type too softly and too quickly >> On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> yeah true. Hmm I dunno. Maybe a click not a cherp, like a typing sound >>> maybe? >>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> >>>> well of course you could turn it on or off I'm thinking of a slight click >>>> nt abeep or chirp and anyone could turn the sound on or off at will :) >>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree. Although the chirp is a good one I too asan end user would feel >>>>> overwhelmed whenit comes to noises. >>>>> >>>>> S >>>>> On Aug 5, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Michael, >>>>>> >>>>>> Although I do not know how this feature would help, who am I to say that >>>>>> it wouldn't. There are a couple of things, however, that one must keep >>>>>> in mind. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. There is already some feedback from keyboard entry in the form of >>>>>> tones. For example when Caps Lock is activated, you get beeps to >>>>>> indicate this. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. When attempting to enter information in an area information can't be >>>>>> entered, the keyboard "chirps." >>>>>> >>>>>> My concern is that if every single key clicked, then beeped when the >>>>>> Caps Lock is on, etc., the user might be overwhelmed with too much >>>>>> feedback. When I originally brought up the idea of having VO emit an >>>>>> error tone after a word had been written, I wasn't thinking about >>>>>> anything else than preserving a silent typing environment but still >>>>>> being notified right away when a word was mis-spelled. To my way of >>>>>> thinking, this would speed up the editing process for everyone who >>>>>> wanted to use it and, for those of us who work in multilingual >>>>>> environments, it would be a great way for the Mac to say: "Hey, you may >>>>>> want to switch your keyboard to another language!" I have accidentally >>>>>> written several paragraphs before discovering that I was writing German >>>>>> texts but hadn't switched my keyboard over to that keyboard layout. Had >>>>>> this feature that I want been available, I would have saved myself tons >>>>>> of time and grief more than once. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5,Aug,2010, at 2:53 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this brings an idea to mind. I used to have an atari st that had a >>>>>>> very soft click or chirp when keys were pressed I wonder if we could >>>>>>> get a very very light click sound that would sound on each keypress. to >>>>>>> be useful ti would have to be very quiet, preferably adjustable, or let >>>>>>> you select what sound you want it to use, for me a very soft tick like >>>>>>> you would hear from an old ibm tactile keyboard would be awesome >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please file this as a request. I think this is a very good idea and >>>>>>>> one that needs to be implemented. I for one would like it and I will >>>>>>>> also make the request again. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>> Before submitting this feature request to the accessibility team at >>>>>>>>> Apple, I was curious if (1) it is implemented already and (2) what >>>>>>>>> others thought. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I work in a multilingual context daily. I am very satisfied with my >>>>>>>>> text-to-speech software, too. However, I occasionally have this >>>>>>>>> annoying problem that wouldn't be a problem if one of VO's features >>>>>>>>> could be enhanced just a bit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whenever I type, I keep all keyboard echo features turned off. This >>>>>>>>> means that I only hear text when I move the arrow keys or invoke a VO >>>>>>>>> function that causes something to be spoken. I find that I make a >>>>>>>>> lot more mistakes when writing if there is any feedback whatsoever >>>>>>>>> when I am typing. One of the really cool things about VO, however, >>>>>>>>> is that whenever the Caps Lock is invoked VO beeps each time a key is >>>>>>>>> pressed. I like this a lot. I also very much appreciate the fact >>>>>>>>> that whenever a word I encounter while listening to a text is >>>>>>>>> mis-spelled, VO sends an error beep. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What I would like to see is an extension to this feature wherein VO >>>>>>>>> beeped on a mis-spelled word, even if the keyboard is silent. I >>>>>>>>> don't know how many times I started to write a text in English, only >>>>>>>>> to realize later that I was still using a German keyboard. I would >>>>>>>>> save a lot of time and hassle if, immediately after the first >>>>>>>>> mis-spelled word was encountered, I could switch the keyboard to the >>>>>>>>> appropriate language. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would also use this feature extensively, even if I were in a >>>>>>>>> monolingual context. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Your thoughts? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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