Hi Dave! I'm a bit biust, but I think Victoria sounds much nicer than Alex!! :-] Colin. Skype focus_66 On 28 Aug 2010, at 08:15, Dave Taylor wrote:
> They are both very expensive though. I would urge working out which tasks > you can do on the Mac side. The more you can do on the Mac side, the cheaper > the screen reader you will need. If you can use iWork and built in Mac apps > rather than touching Outlook, for instance, you can probably get away with > NVDA. Office 2007 is slow and, in my view, doesn't work that well with > screen readers. Office 2007 and 2010 use an entirely different interface > than anything else out there and I think are slow and hard to learn. This is > the main reason I won't be surprised if I make that order in the next couple > of weeks and go over to a similar situation where I use Mac for everything I > can and only cross back when I have to. > > Nothing works like VO, and nothing has a voice to match Alex, I think you'll > hate everything about the way Windows is going, personally! > > Cheers > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 5:20 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to > purchase and learn > > Jaws is more or less the standard in terms of you'll run in to that more > than others. > > Window-eyes is another great option. I haven't used it but many many people > > think very highly of it. > > What I would do if I were you is take that Mac, set yourself up a virtual > machine and try the demo copies of all the options you listed. Read the > manual / ask questions and you should be able to bootstrap yourself. You > may need help creating the VM for Windows I had a help desk not sure your > situation although there is a podcast that details this process. > I like Jaws myself but I have heard Window-eyes can be more stable and > leaner on resources. Costs differ, JFW is probably the most expensive. > Window-eyes comes with an option where you can pay for the software in > installments which is a fantastic feature on a budget. > > Hope that helps. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Jones" <openses...@me.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 8:52 PM > Subject: Need Mac User's advice on which Windows screen reader to purchase > and learn > > > I realise the question might sound strange and even off-topic, but I really > want to hear this advice from fellow Mac and VO Users. When I last used > Windows I was able to get by with a screen magnifier and didn't use a screen > > reader. By the time I needed to start using a screen reader I had already > moved to the Mac full time so VO was the natural choice. Now I'm being > required to start using Windows again, along with Office 2007 and Internet > Explorer 8 and I'm not sure which Windows screen reader I should invest my > time and money to learn, or if one of them is more like VO than the others. > I will be running either XP or Windows 7 under Fusion. > > Please send your replies directly to me off-list as this probably isn't a > thread that needs to grow here. I would be grateful for your thoughts on the > > following questions: > 1. I've heard of Jaws, Window-Eyes, System Access, and NVDA. Any others I > should consider? > 2. Is there a Windows screen reader that works like VO? > 3. Is there one Windows screen reader that is easier to learn than the > others? > 4. I was intimately familiar with XP but don't know Windows 7 at all. Are > they similar enough that I should get Windows 7, or should I try to get XP > so that I don't have to learn a new operating system along with the new > screen reader? > 5. I will probably only need to use Windows for the next 2 years and most of > > my work will still be done on the Mac. Given this limited time frame, is one > > of the Windows screen readers less expensive to own over that time period? > > TIA for any assistance, > Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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