I purposely left that out because Apple Care is a given. ALthough I have to admit that all things considered, Apple Care is pretty cheap in general. A great example is when the USB port on my first iMac crapped out. I would have found and still find taking an iMac apart to be a painful process. However, Apple Care covered the cost of labor and parts at a non-Apple store, which meant it was repaired by an authorized dealer. In this case I came out way ahead if I had to pay for that repair. Although I sure would like to still get one of the iMacs apart. Figured out how to pull the front cover, but no clue how to get behind the screen to the hard drive etc. Must be some trick I have not discovered.
Scott On Jan 21, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Scott, great points and I follow you now. > > In the end it's probably because Apple can sell service on your device.:) > > You have some strong points. > > On Jan 21, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Scott, >> >> You miss the point or at least the point I was making. The average (excludes >> electronics technicians) have little need to be mucking about inside the >> phone, iPod, etc. You are correct that Apple is protecting its bottom line >> and rightfully so. If people started messing around with their phones and >> tried installing their own batteries etc. and break the phone, guess who >> gets blamed and is expected to fix it. Well if you guessed Apple, then you >> would be correct. There are those who can disassemble such devices and >> reassemble it without damaging the device, but this is a small subset of >> people. I also again wonder to what extent one can modify the hardware >> without running into any legal issues. I have not explored this, but most >> software licenses for example do not allow for you to reverse engineer the >> software and this may be true with some hardware and this could be another >> reason. Either way, I hope that clarifies why I believe Apple does not want >> people opening their devices. You may disagree, but I bet statistics would >> reveal that more people toss their electronic devices when they quit working >> then actually take them in for repair. >> Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Scott Ford wrote: >> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> I have read the previous messages on this topic, I would like to >>> respectfully object. I would like to begin by saying that I feel the topic >>> is certainly news worthy. Furthermore I am quite disturbed at how readily >>> folks on this list are willing to just bow to the "omnipotent Corporation >>> looking out for our well being." I feel that Apple is only protecting its >>> bottom line and that is where it begins and ends. Fifty years ago the Sears >>> catalog included schematics so that one could self troubleshoot issues whit >>> products that were sold in their catalog. Today we have covers to cover >>> covers, layering the electronics and mechanical parts of our cars and >>> hundreds of other devices that we use every day. As an American I love our >>> traditional spirit of adventure and personal independence to take a product >>> designed or meant for one purpose and transform it into something completely >>> beyond what it was designed for. In pushing this envelope we have been a >>> market leader and produced some of the sharpest minds in our century. I >>> know for a fact that a few funky shaped screws are not going to stop the >>> people that I am describing. I am objecting with the status quo, and the >>> consensus of the people on this list. Before I went blind I was a Heavy >>> equipment Mechanic. Whenever I would hear about situations like the one >>> outlined I would be frustrated. We have an amazing amount of competent >>> electronic specialists who would not bat an eye at removing the back of >>> their iPhone to do a minor repair. I am a ham radio operator and that >>> spirit is certainly alive and flourishing. The amount of money that folks >>> with these skills are saving by doing their own repairs, are nothing short >>> of amazing. When I owned a computer store and we would frequently have >>> computers come in where their capacitors had dried out and exploded. This >>> action is so dramatic, that when my friend and business partner who happened >>> to be one of these skilled electronic technicians that you are saying have >>> no business tinkering around in a iphone, would replace the capacitors. Our >>> customers would think that he had performed nothing short of a miracle. >>> Along those same lines I had dropped my BN PK and the cards had become >>> dislodged. He simply reseated them and I went on my way. The company had >>> just charged me 250.00 for new batteries. He researched it in four minutes >>> and could have replaced them for me for 18.00. How much do you think that >>> Humanware would have charged for reseating my cards, not to mention the >>> time. Please do not tell me that this is not news worthy, because it >>> certainly is. >>> Sincerely, >>> Scott >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of heather kd5cbl >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:04 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the >>> hardware they paid for. >>> >>> Well, that would be like watching tim the tool man tailor, right! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: Apple "screwing" iPhone users to block them from opening the >>> hardware they paid for. >>> >>> >>> Lol, >>> >>> I think this is quite funny. Really, unless your the like 1% of iPhone >>> owners who want to take your device apart, is this even news worthy? >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> Gee, have you considered that maybe Apple doesn't want you mucking about >>>> in there and then trying to claim the device has some sort of flaw, which >>>> means they would have to replace or repair it? There is a reason why they >>>> don't want the average person messing with the internals. Now once out of >>>> warranty, I think you should be able to do whatever you want since if you >>>> break it you get to keep the pieces or pay APple to put it back together. >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 20, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is this another method apple i using to control repairs and keep >>>>> consumers out? read more: >>>>> >>>>> http://bit.ly/gpoTpd >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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